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onager

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16. Have you ever read E.M. Forster on Plotinus?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:20 AM
Feb 2016


I don't know if Forster was any more of a religious expert than a Certain Ex-Nun. But his writing on the subject subject is rollicking and entertaining.

Been a while since I read it, but IIRC according to Forster, Plotinus wanted to go to Persia and study philosophy. Unfortunately he had the usual Philosopher's Dilemma - he was broke. But a war was going on, so he joined the army to travel. I believe Forster said Plotinus "must have been the unlikeliest soldier in history."

The war went badly. One of Forster's funniest lines (from memory): "Plotinus always said he was embarrassed by his physical body. His military experience almost relieved him of that embarrassment."

The more things change, the more they etc...

Plotinus claimed that he studied philosophy under Ammonius Saccas, a dockworker/philosopher in Alexandria.

Dockworker/philosopher? Yep, because at the time Alexandria was the world center of philosophy schools and they were fiercely competitive.

According to Forster: if you were a young person who landed at Alexandria wanting to study with Philosopher "A," you'd be greeted by mobs of disciples representing Philosopher "B thru Z." All of them claiming that their master was the Most Philosopheriest of them all, and the guy you wanted to study with was an ignorant clod.

And all of them wanting your tuition money. So the whole thing sounds a lot like today's diploma mills. Or places like Liberty University.

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Never heard of it Cartoonist Feb 2016 #1
Karen Armstrong is a notable exponent of it muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #2
Armstrong = the Kim Kardashian of theology onager Feb 2016 #4
Onager, I beg to differ. Nitram Feb 2016 #7
Well, differ away! onager Feb 2016 #9
OK, onager, I get it. Analysis of religious thought makes you very, very angry. Nitram Feb 2016 #10
Actually, it makes me LMAO. onager Feb 2016 #15
You're use of language does not indicate amusement. It suggests deep anger. Nitram Feb 2016 #17
Anyone who says this: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #18
Hi Muriel. Tell me what do you make of onager's language in regard to Armstrong: Nitram Feb 2016 #19
Don't quit your day job. onager Feb 2016 #25
So posting on DU is your day job onager? Figures. nt Nitram Feb 2016 #29
And your use of language indicates projection. cleanhippie Feb 2016 #27
Using words like "puke" to describe a respected author's writing is projection? Nitram Feb 2016 #28
Yes. You should do that. cleanhippie Feb 2016 #30
This is the atheist and agnostic group awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #20
There is a difference between belief in God and the study of religious thought. Nitram Feb 2016 #24
to me, Karen Armstrong does not simply analyze religious thought RussBLib Feb 2016 #26
That's just the kind of doublethink that annoys me about Armstrong muriel_volestrangler Feb 2016 #13
Have you ever read E.M. Forster on Plotinus? onager Feb 2016 #16
"...just another guess..." Iggo Feb 2016 #12
Exactly. Iggo Feb 2016 #11
you're making him nonexistent. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #14
It's both sensible and silly whatthehey Feb 2016 #3
grasping at straws? RussBLib Feb 2016 #5
Isn't this already written into the rules of their game?... NeoGreen Feb 2016 #6
Great post! mountain grammy Feb 2016 #8
What is SITC? nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #21
stay in the closet (nt) NeoGreen Feb 2016 #22
Ah, thank you. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #23
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