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In reply to the discussion: Spooked What do we learn about science from a controversy in physics? [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(102,668 posts)11. No, the proliferation of hominids is not evolution
Look up any definition of evolution, and it will not say it's about hominids. Evolution is about all organisms, and it's about the changes in frequency of genes, not an increase in the number of different species in one clade that are recognised. And, yes, the identification of hominids, from partial remains, both needs expertise and is still not universally agreed by the scientists in the area.
"the author's and your claim that science as a process is questionable"
Oh, look, yet another strawman from you. Did you actually read all of the OP excerpt, let alone the full article? The last paragrahp of the excerpt:
The defense of science against this claim turns out to be complicated, for the simple reason that, as a social activity, science is vulnerable to all the comedy inherent in any social activity: group thinking, self-pleasing, and running down the competition in order to get the customers (or, in this case, the governments) cash. Books about the history of science should therefore be about both science and scientists, about the things they found and the way they found them. A good science writer has to show us the fallible men and women who made the theory, and then show us why, after the human foibles are boiled off, the theory remains reliable.
Got it? He said, in something you really ought have read, that science can be defended from being called "a socially agreed-on fiction", and that writers can show that theories remain reliable. There's more like that in the article - from the conclusion:
"But it is a special kind of social activity, one where lots of different human traitsobstinacy, curiosity, resentment of authority, sheer cussedness, and a grudging readiness to submit pet notions to popular scrutinyend by producing reliable knowledge. ... One way or another, science really happens."
I hope you are loving this. You should be learning something about comprehension.
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Spooked What do we learn about science from a controversy in physics? [View all]
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2015
OP
I'm perfectly serious, because I read the thing, and didn't have a kneejerk
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2015
#9
"But it is a special kind of social activity, one where lots of different human traits—
AlbertCat
Nov 2015
#14
The authors pretends that bullshit, strawman arguments are somehow legitimate
skepticscott
Nov 2015
#21
You said you were loving this; don't throw a tantrum, when you're tiring of your lesson
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2015
#22
No, obviously he isn't referring to evolution, because he doesn't talk about it.
AlbertCat
Nov 2015
#12
And that's the point; you can't work out that dividing line from fossils
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2015
#16