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beam me up scottie

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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:04 AM Nov 2015

In 1941 Dr. Seuss sent a message that, sadly, hasn’t lost its meaning. [View all]

In 1941 Dr. Seuss sent a message that, sadly, hasn’t lost its meaning.
November 19, 2015 by JT Eberhard


Dr. Seuss was actually a political cartoon contributor for New York’s PM Newspaper for part of his early career. This was his piece on October 1, 1941:






This was in reaction to the fact that most Americans opposed Adolph Hitler’s anti-Jew policies while also being opposed to granting safe haven to refugee Jews.

And here we are again today, over 74 years later, where people are being executed by on occupying force and need to get out of the country. Most Americans oppose ISIL in pretty much every way, yet the people who think a freshly fertilized egg is a human being for which anything and everything should be done are willing to turn their back on actual refugee children. If it were their families in Syria they’d be begging for safe haven, but they just can’t put themselves in the other people’s shoes. We’re safe, and that’s all that matters, right?

You want America to be a hero to the world. Well here’s the news flash: heroes take risks. They go into burning buildings to pull people out. Bravery isn’t the absence of fear, it’s the courage and the strength to do what is right even though you’re afraid. And all the people who want America to be a hero simultaneously want her to cave to fear, fear ISIL purposefully has tried to impose upon us. There are gobs of refugees in so many other countries, countries that aren’t separated from ISIL by an ocean, countries that don’t spend 47% of all the world’s military spending on their own military. And yet, they’re the ones stepping up.

So much flag-waving. So much faux patriotism. You just want America to be viewed as a hero, but you want to make her a coward and it’s obvious why. Sit down, because this is going to sting: it’s because you are cowards, racists, or some combination of the two. You demand the world’s respect without wanting to do any of the work, without taking any of the risk that doesn’t include bombing places that contain way more innocents than terrorists. That’s nice and 100% safe and the only price we might have to pay are a bunch of dead innocent people and for you that’s good enough to be a hero. But it ain’t, that’s just your cowardice coming up with justifications.

Nobody’s asking you to run into a burning building, literally or metaphorically. We just want to let people into a country where they’re safe – something that once meant a great deal to this nation if the inscription on the Statue of Liberty is any indication. Yeah, a terrorist or two might try to come over and, who knows, they might get through the extremely strict screening process to get into this country. We’ll cross that bridge when we get to it and deal with it. But this argument rests on the presumption that if a terrorist sneaks through people might die and it ignores the fact that people are already dying and many more are certain to die unless countries help! Other countries are, but your big, tough, macho Republican leaders are cowering like children.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/wwjtd/2015/11/in-1941-dr-seuss-sent-a-message-that-sadly-hasnt-lost-its-meaning



I am an anti-theist but as the daughter of a refugee I am sickened by people who would turn away those who are desperately fleeing religious persecution.

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Mmhh, with a similar background, I disagree with you Yorktown Nov 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Nov 2015 #2
There you go: US, UK, France Yorktown Nov 2015 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Nov 2015 #24
Actually, I wrote a thread to answer you in detail Yorktown Nov 2015 #27
My s/o's son's fiance is a Muslim from Syria. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #3
Well, I wrote a thread to explain my outlook Yorktown Nov 2015 #28
I'm not interested. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #29
OK, let's me give you another reason Yorktown Nov 2015 #30
So you're going to turn away refugees because of something that probably won't happen? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #32
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #34
And neither are the vast majority of Muslims. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #35
Just as abused kids often become violent adults, refugees can become rebellious citizens Yorktown Nov 2015 #37
Then hide under your bed. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #38
Well, my family had to shield refugees on religious grounds Yorktown Nov 2015 #39
This is who I see when you talk about those "fanatics": beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #40
It is ridiculous to think refugees can change the constitution Android3.14 Nov 2015 #6
Facts disagree with you: there are hundreds of Sharia courts today in Britain Yorktown Nov 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Nov 2015 #25
Thank you Android3.14 Nov 2015 #26
That is debatable Yorktown Nov 2015 #33
*Please provide detailed proof (NT) hueymahl Nov 2015 #7
Expect this: Liberalagogo Nov 2015 #12
"Sharia is what creates future refugees or wars." <Sharia didn't have a fucking thing to do with our jtuck004 Nov 2015 #8
+1 daleanime Nov 2015 #10
Actually, it has to do with money and oil not religion at all. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #13
Thank you Brainstormy Nov 2015 #14
50% of Muslims, in Muslim countries or the West, favor applying the Sharia AlbertCat Nov 2015 #16
Well, we can unterpret figures, but let's start with figures Yorktown Nov 2015 #21
If your problem is with the political attitudes of refugees, then that should be your test muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #31
K&R!! Amimnoch Nov 2015 #4
Good point! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #5
True.... daleanime Nov 2015 #11
Bill to save Jewish children, 1939 onager Nov 2015 #9
How many of them died because Americans turned their backs? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #18
Maybe he was respomding to... NeoGreen Nov 2015 #15
Disgusting. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #19
Just my observations and what I've read and heard.. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #17
Good observations. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #20
Muslims assimilate well in America? 34% prefer Sharia to the Constitution. Yorktown Nov 2015 #36
Have you ever met any radical Christians? They are in all Christian faiths. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #41
Thanks for this post mountain grammy! haikugal Nov 2015 #42
I had a recent Muslim sighting here in East Jesus myself. onager Nov 2015 #43
Thanks for the info.. haikugal Nov 2015 #44
I didn't know your mother was an immigrant too. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #45
Yes BMUS we seem to have things in common. haikugal Nov 2015 #46
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