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Atheists & Agnostics

DetlefK

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8. Your reasoning is wrong.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Original post)

Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:45 AM

Aug 2015

Where do these morals come from in the first place? If you and your god have the same morals, that means, you two can implement the same morals independently. And that means that you got the morals from a source and the god got the morals from a source: It was independent processes.

Now, let's say you get one kind of morals and the god gets another kind of morals. Which ones are the correct ones?
A god is clearly superior to you in every aspect. Accordingly, his morals are also superior to yours. Accordingly, his morals are correct and your's are incorrect.

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Either you agree with god or you don't. If you agree, then you _are_ your god. [View all] ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 OP

I always found it interesting... uriel1972 Aug 2015 #1

that's really a funny coincidence, isn't it ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #3

But isn't that why there are so many religions, Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #2

Thanks. I hope I can bring some other people along that road faster than I got there ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #4

I am not sure that there is a fast lane Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #5

I agree. And I think what you are doing is great ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #7

Religion is ego driven AlbertCat Aug 2015 #6

Your reasoning is wrong. DetlefK Aug 2015 #8

assumes facts not in evidence ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #9

Understanding is not necessary for belief. DetlefK Aug 2015 #10

"the premise that the god exists only in the head of the believer" ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #13

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Then your proof is entirely useless and pointless. DetlefK Aug 2015 #17

don't pull something ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #18

If you make up a god, of course it has your morals. DetlefK Sep 2015 #21

what I'm saying holds whether you make up the god or somebody else does ProfessorPlum Sep 2015 #22

For example, the group construction "Yahweh" is said to think slavery is ok ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #20

Why do you assume that a hypothetical god would necessarily be morally superior? LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #12

he is assuming that gods are superior in all aspects Warren Stupidity Aug 2015 #19

I always had a hard time with Plato RussBLib Aug 2015 #11

that's also a persuasive argument :) ProfessorPlum Aug 2015 #14

That was how I made the leap from belief to non-belief. Curmudgeoness Aug 2015 #15

You're not alone with Plato. onager Aug 2015 #16