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Stevepol

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13. But this adds one more assurance to the procedure.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 09:09 PM
Jun 2015

If the term civil union is solely used by the government and not "marriage," the GOVERNMENT won't be required to define the term marriage, so it gets such a loaded term completely out of the orbit of government and leaves everybody free to make the definition through social groupings.

Admittedly, if the SCOTUS sanctions gay marriage, you will have the same result on the surface, but you will also have the government weighing in on one side supposedly by sanctioning the term. If the government only sanctions civil unions, then the opponents of gay marriage can no longer argue that the government is telling them what marriage means. It will save a lot of political folderol and pull the props out from under haters of government over-reach, etc. It may seem to be a too subtle difference but these people who rely on wedge issues can make a mountain out of a mole hill and this gets around that I think.

Anyway, we'll see what happens, and how this SC dances around the issue so as not to offend their right-wing masters.

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When you elevate a lifestyle to the status of a civil right, AlbertCat Jun 2015 #1
Elevate a lifestyle to a civil right.. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #2
Bill Maher addressed this last night in his new rules.... truebrit71 Jun 2015 #3
Not a very good argument, unfortunately skepticscott Jun 2015 #6
Hate speech is in fact hate speech, even Warren Stupidity Jun 2015 #4
It may seem that way skepticscott Jun 2015 #5
hopefully, it's another sign of the death-throes of religion RussBLib Jun 2015 #7
That is I think one reason behind the radicalization of Islam Yorktown Jun 2015 #9
GOP dilemma: ditch the Evangelical line or stay unelectable Yorktown Jun 2015 #8
A very simple solution that would be acceptable I believe to both sides. Stevepol Jun 2015 #10
If SCOTUS rules in favour of same sex marriage, no religion will have to recognize it. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #11
But this adds one more assurance to the procedure. Stevepol Jun 2015 #13
But that wouldn't prevent discrimination against same sex couples beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #14
We need to take marriage away from religion Lordquinton Jun 2015 #16
Yes! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #17
One poster here had an interesting take on religious morality Lordquinton Jun 2015 #18
Interesting idea, makes sense. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #19
It's the ray comfort school of morality Lordquinton Jun 2015 #20
This is from a deleted post in the other place: beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #21
That kind of thinking isn't as uncommon as some may think Lordquinton Jun 2015 #22
Heh. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #24
Out here in the SF bay area Lordquinton Jun 2015 #25
I think it does. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #26
The first part, yes Lordquinton Jun 2015 #12
the religious ceremony should have no legal standing. AlbertCat Jun 2015 #15
the “criminalization of Christianity", the "war on Christmas",.. Yorktown Jun 2015 #23
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