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onager

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27. They opened up some...and probably wish they hadn't
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

Old-timers will probably recognize that I post about this book every time the subject comes up. But for those unfamiliar with the book, it is a great if infuriating read.

The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican's Role in the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism by David I. Kertzer

Amazon Review:

...Kertzer's book refutes the Church's thesis that the Holocaust grew out of "an anti-Judaism that was essentially more sociological and political than religious." In fact, Kertzer asserts, those dimensions of European anti-Semitism developed "in no small part due to the efforts of the Roman Catholic Church itself."

The racial laws of fascist Italy and the Nuremberg Laws of 1930s Germany, for example, were directly modeled on the Church's own rules governing treatment of Jews: until the collapse of the Papal States in the late 19th century, Jews living in these territories were forced to wear yellow badges and live in ghettos.

Kertzer's arguments make for compelling reading because they're presented in story form, based on the actions of the popes themselves. Access to long-sealed Church archives allowed Kertzer to reconstruct some of the most shocking, secret conversations that occurred in the Vatican in the decades leading up to World War II. --Michael Joseph Gross

http://www.amazon.com/The-Popes-Against-Jews-Anti-Semitism/dp/0375706054

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Typical. Those old boys are still stuck in the twelfth century Warpy Jun 2015 #1
I don't know why people have to be so damned mean. (I'm not talking about you, onager.) Tobin S. Jun 2015 #2
Aw, I knew you weren't talking about me! onager Jun 2015 #7
What a jerk. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #3
Did you read the patheos blog he linked to??? beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #4
They now say they're happy Cartoonist Jun 2015 #5
Because bigots suck. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #6
They now say they're happy AlbertCat Jun 2015 #10
Well gender theory is from the devil Lordquinton Jun 2015 #8
The pope compared it to Nazi propaganda. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #11
Oh yea Lordquinton Jun 2015 #12
Oh they tried to rewrite that history. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #13
Not to mention eir long history of antisemitism Lordquinton Jun 2015 #14
Imagine what they'd find if they opened up all the archives... beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #15
You're the devil Lordquinton Jun 2015 #16
They opened up some...and probably wish they hadn't onager Jun 2015 #27
I do remember, onager, I was hoping you'd weigh in here. beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #30
And no one can prove him wrong, so we have to accept it. trotsky Jun 2015 #21
Says a man who wears a dress. DavidDvorkin Jun 2015 #9
I think that their hatred and venom they spew on a person who did nothing to them LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #17
Just a man dressed up as a whore edhopper Jun 2015 #18
LMFAO trotsky Jun 2015 #20
I'm really sick of these nasty, bigoted pricks, mr blur Jun 2015 #19
Free speech is a two way street Lordquinton Jun 2015 #25
This guy Longenecker; nil desperandum Jun 2015 #22
LOL trotsky Jun 2015 #23
Well now, nil desperandum Jun 2015 #24
He makes a compelling argument Lordquinton Jun 2015 #26
I'm sure Pope Awesome I will have him defrocked at his earliest convenience. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2015 #28
Not at all surprising Longenecker would say that Rob H. Jun 2015 #29
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