Atheists & Agnostics

LiberalAndProud

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11. And I would agree with the author that statements like that stifle the discussion.

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 11:59 AM

Apr 2015

I don't dismiss those Muslims who have found a message of peace within the doctrine, though it baffles me how that can be so. But when it can be clearly demonstrated that subscribers to a certain doctrine are carrying out acts of terror worldwide, I think it serves the world's interest to criticize and condemn at least that interpretation of the doctrine. Drowning out the discussion with cries of "Islamophobe!" don't serve to reform anything and we will be witnessing these acts of terror and continuous outbreaks of holy wars without relief in the foreseeable future. It's time to have the discussion.

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Islam is not a religion of peace [View all] Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 OP

I don't think there is any "religion of peace." trotsky Apr 2015 #1

I dunno. That new church in Indiana, ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2015 #2

I don't even Aerows Apr 2015 #14

Yup. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #4

I see your point about this article being Islamophobic, but Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #5

I would point to organizations like the KKK and other F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #7

She is quite clear why she is singling out Islam Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #10

And I would agree with the author that statements like that stifle the discussion. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #11

You mean just like Christianity and Judaism and every other major religion? jeff47 Apr 2015 #3

The gospels don't make any explicit calls for violence. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #6

Except the article does not exist in a vacuum. jeff47 Apr 2015 #8

"Implicit in the declaration of "Islam is not a religion of peace" is the claim that other religion Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #9

Then why say "of peace"? jeff47 Apr 2015 #18

because she is asserting that islam is not a religion of peace. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #19

Seriously, try reading. It can be fun. jeff47 Apr 2015 #20

Because she is arguing explicitly against the assertion that Islam is a religion "of peace". Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #22

Once again, I'm talking about the implications, not the literal content jeff47 Apr 2015 #27

Once again you have invented an argument not made, declared it "the implications" Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #35

What the fuck? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2015 #23

You say "try reading" LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #26

The term "religion of peace" comes from the etymology of the word "Islam" itself, deucemagnet Apr 2015 #32

No, it refutes the claim that others have made that Islam *is* a religion of peace. LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #12

And as I said above, that claim is only important if other religions are religions of peace. jeff47 Apr 2015 #17

Sorry, but no skepticscott Apr 2015 #21

Except there's no point in singling it out other than to inflame. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #28

If proponents of Islam choose to single it out skepticscott Apr 2015 #31

The author's criticism of islam has nothing to do with comparisons to other religions. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #25

And why make that distinction if it doesn't apply to any religion? jeff47 Apr 2015 #29

Because she's countering the original phrase. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #30

Hyperbole, projected Trajan Apr 2015 #33

If A then Not B does not imply if Not A then B LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #34

Islam is the youngest... dangin Apr 2015 #13

So by that theory we would have to wait another 100 years or so Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #15

youngest by only a couple hundred years Lordquinton Apr 2015 #24

My Yarmulke is Clear. dangin Apr 2015 #36

Ali's point of view Cartoonist Apr 2015 #16