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onager

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Tue Feb 17, 2015, 01:19 PM Feb 2015

What ISIS Really Wants (The Atlantic) [View all]

Very interesting article by Graeme Wood, and one of the best I've read explaining the core beliefs of ISIS:

Its rise to power is less like the triumph of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (a group whose leaders the Islamic State considers apostates) than like the realization of a dystopian alternate reality in which David Koresh or Jim Jones survived to wield absolute power over not just a few hundred people, but some 8 million.


In fact, much of what the group does looks nonsensical except in light of a sincere, carefully considered commitment to returning civilization to a seventh-century legal environment, and ultimately to bringing about the apocalypse...

The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.


http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Rebuttal and counter-rebuttal at Raw Story. American Muslim leader denounced the article as "wrong." But as Wood points out, he didn't say specifically WHAT Wood got wrong:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/americas-most-prominent-muslim-says-the-atlantic-is-doing-pr-for-isis/

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Why is this thread in the A&A group? TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #1
Feel free to re-post it anywhere you wish. onager Feb 2015 #2
Fair enough. TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #12
As to why it's here AlbertCat Nov 2015 #41
Maybe it's because atheists are interested skepticscott Feb 2015 #3
To avoid an alert Cartoonist Feb 2015 #4
Yep, and I've already been torpedoed in this group today. onager Feb 2015 #8
tsk tsk tsk progressoid Feb 2015 #19
because we like to discuss this sort of stuff here. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #5
I have no reason to alert on the thread, TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #10
So you just felt the urge to admonish the op? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #13
No, I did not read the SOP before I posted. TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #14
Overreact? That's rich. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #15
The harshness of your response proves my point. TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #16
actually the discussions here, except when we get tone trolled, Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #18
"By posting the article in this group I expect that the discussion will be quite limited ...." PassingFair Nov 2015 #40
unusual how? Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #17
Warren, TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #21
You might try actually discussing issues here instead of bringing the meta. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #26
Actually, faith-based topics are the almost exclusive content of A&A EvolveOrConvolve Nov 2015 #37
I'm not offended, TT, feel free to drop in anytime. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #45
Reading is hard. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #7
See post #10. nt TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #11
Gracious, you've been harshed! LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #22
Thank you. TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #23
harshed has a long history. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #27
I thought so. LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #28
Just wanted to say I didn't take offense. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #42
TT, just a quick note RussBLib Nov 2015 #38
I don't care where it's posted, it's important work. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #6
We all know that ISIS's intent Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #9
Salvation religions..... ugh... AlbertCat Nov 2015 #43
I'd rather not make enemies unnecessarily. onager Feb 2015 #20
Thank you onager. TexasTowelie Feb 2015 #24
It's only "wrong" in the sense that not all Muslims believe in the armageddon prophecy, LiberalAndProud Feb 2015 #25
Why do they want edhopper Feb 2015 #29
Well, they want the whole world. onager Feb 2015 #30
I think due to the things you mentioned edhopper Feb 2015 #31
If history has taught us anything, it is that conquering a nation is easy... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #32
Kick for current importance. HuckleB Nov 2015 #33
I wonder, if ISIS acquired nukes.... RussBLib Nov 2015 #34
I don't think anyone asks them, they're basically property. haikugal Nov 2015 #35
right. you may have some women who prefer being behind the veil RussBLib Nov 2015 #36
I'm sorry, but ISIS is Islamic RussBLib Nov 2015 #39
when will ISIS come to blows with their funders, the House of Saud? Duppers Nov 2015 #44
It's all in their books. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #46
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