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59. Gods the Atheists Worship
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Mon Jul 14, 2014, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

The idea of godly entities has always intrigued me. I am deeply religious and strongly drawn to the Christian concept of the Jewish God, Yahweh. No one seems to know exactly what the word Yahweh means, except that it means something like “I am I am”, which seems redundant. I suspect its actually a startled response, something like, “It’s me!,” or “I am who I am,” suggesting the idea of a god without the company of other gods.

But, going back to the idea of gods and where it came from. Being an Evolutionist as well as being deeply religious, I suspect it had something to do with the evolution of human speech. Evolution is seldom sudden and it must have taken thousands of years for articulation to attain some semblance of coherence, but there must have been some survival value to the articulation of sound without words for it to be an advantage strong enough to develop into speech.

I suspect that the manipulation of sound became an advantage when it was used to lure prey close enough to make it the next meal. As manipulating sound became physically more precise, there may have been an attempt to call to the invisible spirits that moved the leaves of trees and whispered from the treetops. An awareness of the power of these invisible creatures may have occurred later when powerful winds (storms and tornadoes) hit and hurt.

The next step would be to try to placate (“Please do not kill me!”) these entities by attempting to figure out the sounds that would summon the murmur of seemingly benevolent entities for comfort and advantage, and other sounds to placate or divert the more powerful and destructive ones. When the sounds developed into actual words in a societal context, an attempt may have been made to discover what these invisible creatures were and how not only to understand why they did what they did, but how to communicate with them and, being human, how to manipulate them.

Worship, putting ourselves in a position of absolute submission (rolling over on our backs or prostrating ourselves on our bellies as the natural sign of submission), was an obvious response to overwhelming power, and flattery an obvious attempt to manipulate. Thus we had the power of sound to summon gods and the power of words to negotiate with these invisible beings.

The irony is that the words we created to protect us from something that does not exist have seduced us into creating other entities that do not exist, but nevertheless control our behavior so much that they could in themselves be considered deities. The words that can have such an overpowering control over our lives are societal words when they cease to be tools, and become living (though non-existent) entities.

Friendship, when it becomes more important than our friends, is one. Marriage, when it becomes more important than our spouse, is another. When Family is more important than the members of our families, Community, city, state, even country can take control of us at the expense of family, friends and countrymen, justifying even their extermination and even our own.

We, of course, can exercise our freedom, our expression of ourselves, in walking away from a friend, a spouse, a family, a community, a city, a state, a country, but to do so because a word requires it is worship just as much as the worship of Greek gods, the gods of other more recent religions, or the one god of the Judaic/Christian/ Islamic religion,

Interestingly enough, we seem powerless in their clutches, as if some inner compulsion draws us into their machinations. The only avenue to a clear view of the control words have over our attitudes and our actions, I would suggest, would be an entity with which we struggle (much as a child wrestles a parent or dances with a trusted partner); an entity that guides rather than controls us; an entity that does not encumber us with dogma or literal translations of some Sacred Text that could otherwise be helpful in guiding us in our decision making. The problem we create in this relationship is when we wrestle to win, to hurt, to bend our opponent to our will or when we draw away from our dance partner and seek to impress it/he/she with our devotion to the dance and our enthusiasm to perform perfectly (to purify), what was a shared experience.

And finally, in my opinion, it doesn't make any difference if such an entity exists or not. I can’t imagine why any deity worth worshiping would care if we believed it existed or not.

Let Atheists pretend they have no gods. It is just my opinion, of course, but I would maintain that they have lots of them.

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Christian Right [View all] lwo Dec 2011 OP
Perhaps they have been seduced by a right-wing political cabal. nt Thats my opinion Dec 2011 #1
right vs left macbug Aug 2012 #14
Excellent question. Full answer may come later, but Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #2
Oh, and also with the difference between Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #3
How did the Christian Right form? Brettongarcia Jan 2012 #4
They're directly descended from the evangelical movement of the 1800's Bradical79 Aug 2012 #15
Diarmaid MacCulloch wrote "Christianity: the First Three Thousand Years" Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #37
I'd say this to conservatives: Social Darwinist or Christian, pick one CJCRANE Feb 2012 #5
You are So "Right" JoyN62 Feb 2012 #6
My thought on Abortion macbug Aug 2012 #13
Perhaps the serious question from both perspectives is: Thats my opinion Sep 2012 #21
Why abortions macbug Sep 2012 #22
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #28
they some how don't have those passages in their Bibles that pertain to those issues. demosincebirth Feb 2012 #7
I think the real reason...is probably a boring one. onpatrol98 Feb 2012 #8
relevant book lwo Feb 2012 #9
The Democratic Party is Much More Christian JoyN62 Feb 2012 #10
They have plenty of time to listen to Rush Limbaugh, but not to read the Bible. Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #11
Rush is a brain disease macbug Sep 2012 #25
That whole passage is meaningful to me, but what stands out is: Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #20
any honest christan would agree macbug Sep 2012 #23
I think that's true (about all of us being selective) CJCRANE Dec 2012 #34
Jesus was a communist macbug Aug 2012 #12
The number of politicians throughout history who have followed Christ is miniscule at best Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2012 #17
Jesus was not a communist reemarie Dec 2012 #30
More like a socialist. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #32
It can be argued that Jesus lived as a communist... CJCRANE Dec 2012 #33
With those big Mega Churches, I think the messages has changed from ministering to the poor demosincebirth Aug 2012 #16
John Calvin taught that riches is one of the signs of God's favor Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2012 #18
Matt 19:24 demosincebirth Aug 2012 #19
Who knows what was on his mind when he wrote that macbug Sep 2012 #26
A lot of somebodies need to be reminded that John Calvin kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #64
John Calvin taught no such thing standingtall Oct 2016 #67
That is what I was always taught. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2016 #68
They call them "Seeker Friendly" Churches macbug Sep 2012 #24
Self-Help Group refrescanos Jul 2013 #40
At election season, it is correct to confront others over their inconsistencies and labels sanatanadharma Oct 2012 #27
The Christian Right, and their megachurches are part of the corporate machine in America standingtall Dec 2012 #29
And it also promises them power 47of74 Dec 2012 #35
yes, yes refrescanos Jul 2013 #41
P.S. refrescanos Jul 2013 #44
To my way of thinking the so-called Christian Right is basically striving for a Theocracy. olegramps Jun 2013 #36
There are some who actually say that. Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #38
IMO refrescanos Jul 2013 #42
"The Christian Right" is an oxymoron Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #39
correct refrescanos Jul 2013 #43
Hi, I'm a Christian right-wing Calmador Jul 2013 #45
hail fellow christian refrescanos Jul 2013 #46
I have an answer but ... Calmador Jul 2013 #48
c'mon refrescanos Jul 2013 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #55
Translation: I can respond, but I'm not going to, and it's your fault I won't Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2013 #56
Do you support the Republicans cutting funds to feed children? olegramps Jul 2013 #47
I already explained that... Calmador Jul 2013 #49
Simply put, NO! You support a party whose policies are designed to hurt the defenseless. olegramps Jul 2013 #51
Wrong, I look to support my social values and that's the root solution Calmador Jul 2013 #52
My lord. I have never encountered such nonsense as this. olegramps Jul 2013 #53
I'm gonna try to help.. and I think I cut it down as much as I can Calmador Jul 2013 #54
First of all, the word is "welfare", not "wel-fare" Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2013 #57
No. Because you are jsut another cherry picker that doesn't what to acknowledge to truth. olegramps Jul 2013 #58
Gods the Atheists Worship Paul Edward Snyder Jul 2014 #59
Christians ???? ro9yer Oct 2014 #60
The "scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites" never go away. hvn_nbr_2 Nov 2014 #61
Right 47of74 Jun 2016 #63
Conservative "Christians" like Paul vs. Liberals who like Christ Liberal Insights May 2016 #62
I've despised Paul since I picked up our family bible kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #66
IDK Karen_J Jul 2016 #65
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