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Ocelot II

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10. The quote is from (I think) the New International version; I didn't make it up.

Reply to Major Nikon (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 10, 2024, 11:17 AM

Jan 2024

I do like KJV better. I posted it in only answer to the question of whether Jesus existed from the beginning (and apparently he did, as logos), not as a basis for the doctrine of the Trinity, which was concocted much later to resolve a doctrinal dilemma - can you believe Jesus was God without becoming a polytheist?

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When Jesus was a man on Earth, did he cease being God in Heaven? Was there a Trinity prior to the birth? Were there two [View all] keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 OP

The Trinity is a confusing and very vague concept. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #1

Not sure where you got those verses from, but at best it's highly edited Major Nikon Jan 2024 #9

The quote is from (I think) the New International version; I didn't make it up. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #10

The NIV is the work of evangelicals Major Nikon Jan 2024 #12

Yes. It was the first version that came up on Google; I wasn't looking for Ocelot II Jan 2024 #13

Whatever else he was, Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi Major Nikon Jan 2024 #15

Probably not. He was kind of an anti-establishment guy, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #16

Almost certainly not in the way he was described Major Nikon Jan 2024 #17

There's a lot of influence of Platonism, both in John 1, and the development of the "Trinity" by Tertullian muriel_volestrangler Feb 2024 #18

Interesting. I suppose it makes as much sense as anything else. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #19

Promises. czarjak Jan 2024 #2

Scripture does not show that jesus considered himself a god any more than Karadeniz Jan 2024 #3

seriously? NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #4

Very serious. keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #5

Wow. Just wow. Willing suspension of disbelief NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #6

If the creation does not exist, does the creator exist? sanatanadharma Jan 2024 #7

It's obvious nonsense. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #8

Of course it's irrational, but this is the Religion forum, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #11

It is the religion forum, but unlike most of the other religion forums Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #14