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Major Nikon

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9. Not sure where you got those verses from, but at best it's highly edited
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 11:03 AM
Jan 2024

Not even the KJV reads that way. I don't know of any serious biblical scholar that attributes John 1 as biblical proof of the trinity doctrine. What most will tell you is that it's been mistranslated through most biblical translations as to remove what it would have meant at the time it was written.

The synoptic gospels contain no evidence the anonymous authors of those scriptures ever were intended to suggest a trinity. What they actually do intend and explicitly say was Christ was the messiah, and the messiah and god are mutually exclusive at least as far as any practicing Jew in the first century would have perceived those two entities. The reason the concept of the trinity is vague and confusing is because the biblical evidence for it or even any reasonableness is non-existent. As you allude, it was a doctrine formed centuries after the death of Christ.

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The Trinity is a confusing and very vague concept. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #1
Not sure where you got those verses from, but at best it's highly edited Major Nikon Jan 2024 #9
The quote is from (I think) the New International version; I didn't make it up. Ocelot II Jan 2024 #10
The NIV is the work of evangelicals Major Nikon Jan 2024 #12
Yes. It was the first version that came up on Google; I wasn't looking for Ocelot II Jan 2024 #13
Whatever else he was, Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi Major Nikon Jan 2024 #15
Probably not. He was kind of an anti-establishment guy, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #16
Almost certainly not in the way he was described Major Nikon Jan 2024 #17
There's a lot of influence of Platonism, both in John 1, and the development of the "Trinity" by Tertullian muriel_volestrangler Feb 2024 #18
Interesting. I suppose it makes as much sense as anything else. Ocelot II Feb 2024 #19
Promises. czarjak Jan 2024 #2
Scripture does not show that jesus considered himself a god any more than Karadeniz Jan 2024 #3
seriously? NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #4
Very serious. keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #5
Wow. Just wow. Willing suspension of disbelief NoRethugFriends Jan 2024 #6
If the creation does not exist, does the creator exist? sanatanadharma Jan 2024 #7
It's obvious nonsense. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #8
Of course it's irrational, but this is the Religion forum, Ocelot II Jan 2024 #11
It is the religion forum, but unlike most of the other religion forums Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #14
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