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Major Nikon

(36,900 posts)
28. Pretty sure I've already told you more than once deism can be a religion
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 12:10 AM
Dec 2020

Which is why I am careful to include the qualifier "in the strictest sense" which you summarily ignored despite my repetition of it. There's no short supply of people who have viewed deism as a religion and practice it as such not to mention entire sects of people who have done so throughout history. That doesn't mean religion is inherent to deism, or that subscription to the idea automatically makes it a religion. I'm surprised you didn't offer up Thomas Jefferson who while never identifying as deist most certainly embraced the idea along with many of the religious aspects of Christianity. There were also many other prominent deists like him who were in fact Christian deists who embraced religion rather than rejecting it.

The statement I quoted wasn't Merriam Webster's it was yours. I find it rather shocking you'd try to pass it off as theirs as if this wouldn't be immediately debunked.

Again you are slipping back into your misleading intellectual arguments also with the claim that because you can find one deist who merely mentioned the word religion in what was obviously a placeholder comparison to Christianity, I must be wrong and not agree with them. These bush-league banal tactics are utter bullshit an entertaining them further will only serve to grant them some level of acceptance which is completely undeserved. Unlike you, my assurance that I am done here means I'm done. Feel free to have the last word as such things seem to be vitally important to you, but as my interest in your discussion on this subject is done in this thread you can be also assured I'm not going to read it.

Cheers!

K&R Blue Owl Dec 2020 #1
Religion always has been and always will be about control Major Nikon Dec 2020 #2
I dont think we can lump all religions into this, Eko Dec 2020 #3
Can you name one that doesn't use hocus pocus to compel a behavior? Major Nikon Dec 2020 #7
Deism. Eko Dec 2020 #11
Hardly a religion at all Major Nikon Dec 2020 #12
Saying its hardly a religion means its still a religion. Eko Dec 2020 #13
Not quite so black and white I'm afraid Major Nikon Dec 2020 #14
Some people argue just to argue. Eko Dec 2020 #15
The contrarian takes a statement and looks for the narrowest exception for contradiction Major Nikon Dec 2020 #16
Ok buddy. Eko Dec 2020 #17
You really think this is a contrarian statement? Eko Dec 2020 #18
You have to put that statement into the context that follows Major Nikon Dec 2020 #19
Well, I would prefer to define my original reply Eko Dec 2020 #20
I could certainly argue it doesn't Major Nikon Dec 2020 #22
I understand what you are talking about Eko Dec 2020 #23
Most of the definitions you provided imply if not explicitly require an interventionalist deity(s) Major Nikon Dec 2020 #24
I believe you are misreading the definitions. Eko Dec 2020 #25
You have one statement in there I found rather interesting Major Nikon Dec 2020 #26
Ha. Eko Dec 2020 #27
Pretty sure I've already told you more than once deism can be a religion Major Nikon Dec 2020 #28
Cheers. Eko Dec 2020 #29
If you have some better scources for the definition for religion Eko Dec 2020 #21
It's okay to live like shit, because after you're dead, it's all roses and cake forever. brewens Dec 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #5
Locus of Control safeinOhio Dec 2020 #6
In fact, religion is a sociopolitical control mechanism SheltieLover Dec 2020 #8
"opiate of the peopls" marx rampartc Dec 2020 #9
Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #10
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