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Major Nikon

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26. You have one statement in there I found rather interesting
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 10:27 PM
Dec 2020
It is safe to say the Deism is commitment to a religious faith.


Deism is a religion because it's religion. I hope you realize this argument is completely circular, and I hope you'll eventually realize it's exactly wrong besides. You have provided no justification as to why you think the words "holy", "absolute", "spiritual" and "divine" apply to deism, and this isn't surprising because nothing about deism relates to them.

Deism is the idea that a creator can be determined by reason. It is the complete rejection of religious faith as the determinant of the creator. The words you can't manage to parse out of your definitions all apply to faith.

If you think faith applies to deism at all, then I'd suggest you don't understand what deism is. I suggest reading the wiki posting on the subject as a start and hopefully you'll discover faith has exactly nothing to do with deism. Deist intellectuals of the enlightenment were proponents of "natural religion" which despite the word "religion" appearing in the phrase was decidedly anti-religion. They sought to completely remove all elements of religion save the creation myth which they claimed was derived from reason.

What do you think makes something a creation myth and not a religion?


I believe a transcendental donkey got his nuts clapped by two transcendental bricks and yelled so loud it created the big bang. Is this a religion? Of course not. It's nothing more than a creation myth.

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K&R Blue Owl Dec 2020 #1
Religion always has been and always will be about control Major Nikon Dec 2020 #2
I dont think we can lump all religions into this, Eko Dec 2020 #3
Can you name one that doesn't use hocus pocus to compel a behavior? Major Nikon Dec 2020 #7
Deism. Eko Dec 2020 #11
Hardly a religion at all Major Nikon Dec 2020 #12
Saying its hardly a religion means its still a religion. Eko Dec 2020 #13
Not quite so black and white I'm afraid Major Nikon Dec 2020 #14
Some people argue just to argue. Eko Dec 2020 #15
The contrarian takes a statement and looks for the narrowest exception for contradiction Major Nikon Dec 2020 #16
Ok buddy. Eko Dec 2020 #17
You really think this is a contrarian statement? Eko Dec 2020 #18
You have to put that statement into the context that follows Major Nikon Dec 2020 #19
Well, I would prefer to define my original reply Eko Dec 2020 #20
I could certainly argue it doesn't Major Nikon Dec 2020 #22
I understand what you are talking about Eko Dec 2020 #23
Most of the definitions you provided imply if not explicitly require an interventionalist deity(s) Major Nikon Dec 2020 #24
I believe you are misreading the definitions. Eko Dec 2020 #25
You have one statement in there I found rather interesting Major Nikon Dec 2020 #26
Ha. Eko Dec 2020 #27
Pretty sure I've already told you more than once deism can be a religion Major Nikon Dec 2020 #28
Cheers. Eko Dec 2020 #29
If you have some better scources for the definition for religion Eko Dec 2020 #21
It's okay to live like shit, because after you're dead, it's all roses and cake forever. brewens Dec 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #5
Locus of Control safeinOhio Dec 2020 #6
In fact, religion is a sociopolitical control mechanism SheltieLover Dec 2020 #8
"opiate of the peopls" marx rampartc Dec 2020 #9
Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #10
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