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Like the accused barr investigating abuse of any kind empedocles Nov 2019 #1
The depth and breadth of this scandal is remarkable. MineralMan Nov 2019 #2
It's incredible. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #4
Clearly, it is the second thing. MineralMan Nov 2019 #5
"It cannot be fixed from inside the organization" trotsky Nov 2019 #8
In many ways, the RCC is organized perfectly for MineralMan Nov 2019 #11
Then again, maybe they are taking the Sgt. Stedenko approach Major Nikon Nov 2019 #6
Yes... The church needs to give any and all information Dorian Gray Nov 2019 #46
But can we really be surprised anymore? trotsky Nov 2019 #3
I'm shocked. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #7
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #9
You and David Brooks should go bowling. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #10
Does he cheat when scoring? eom guillaumeb Nov 2019 #14
Only if both sides can do it. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #16
One can be a watcher and/or the watched. In many cases MineralMan Nov 2019 #12
And pedohpiles, being predators, tend to go where the prey exists. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #13
Yes, and...? MineralMan Nov 2019 #15
Institutions protect their own. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #17
And corrupt institutions protect corruption. MineralMan Nov 2019 #18
All such corrupt institutions? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #19
Bye, now... MineralMan Nov 2019 #21
Always best to leave when you cannot answer. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #22
Nope. I leave when the logic of the argument is absent. MineralMan Nov 2019 #23
Then in that spirit, delete your reply #18. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #24
What about, what about, what about!!! nt. Mariana Nov 2019 #28
Are you denying that child abuse exists there? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #31
And being an institution tha exists solely edhopper Nov 2019 #35
All humans are fallible. Even me. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #37
I didn't say it was edhopper Nov 2019 #38
And yet the RCC situation is unique. trotsky Nov 2019 #25
It is not uniquely a safe haven for pedophiles. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #26
What about, what about, what about, what about, what about !!! nt. Mariana Nov 2019 #29
Well that is an astoundingly dim argument. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #30
If the oversight were effective, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #32
As I said, astoundingly dim. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #33
Astoundingly dim is avoiding the obvious. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #34
You do realize no one is saying abuse is unique to the RCC. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #39
"The religion of the abusers... is of no consequence to the abused child." trotsky Nov 2019 #41
mind boggling. edhopper Nov 2019 #36
But is it really? trotsky Nov 2019 #42
Yep edhopper Nov 2019 #43
It is unique in its size and philosophy, which enables and protects the abusers. trotsky Nov 2019 #40
A philosophy of child abuse? guillaumeb Nov 2019 #44
Don't be disingenuous. trotsky Nov 2019 #48
Every institution is unique. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #51
Quit trying to change the subject. trotsky Nov 2019 #54
It is you who prefer to severly limit the discussion so you can "prove" guillaumeb Nov 2019 #56
"Severly (sic) limit the discussion"? trotsky Nov 2019 #57
Sigh... Dorian Gray Nov 2019 #47
Exactly. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #49
While I agree with your comments, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #50
I never said uniquely culpable. But when in discussion with the abuse Dorian Gray Nov 2019 #52
The reference was not to your own comments. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #53
Thank you for calling out his whataboutism attempts. n/t trotsky Nov 2019 #55
Business as usual at the Vatican. Nitram Nov 2019 #20
Wow. It seems as if Sky Daddy can't keep his people or 'instrument' on Earth... NeoGreen Nov 2019 #27
I live in BK Dorian Gray Nov 2019 #45
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