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In reply to the discussion: Can faith alone ever be sufficient? [View all]Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)70. An answer to Guil, and the alleged inevitability of faith, belief, even for rationalists
Last edited Tue Apr 9, 2019, 05:55 AM - Edit history (2)
Soph's argument seems useful in countering the claim that, due to human fallibility, limits, all people rely ultimately on some unproven value; or faith, in something or another. The present post suggests that equally, people need many other things as much or more. So even if Guil's claim was partly true, that would still not justify the extreme focus on faith that we see in Christianity.
Faith alone is not enough to get by in life. And many other things - like practical sense - have at least the status, importance and priority, of faith.
So it is wrong to strongly assert the centrality and primacy of faith. As many believers do.
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in general, we are not rational creatures. So no reasoned argument penetrates faith.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#4
Most can distinguish between a logical versus a very emotional argument.
Bretton Garcia
Apr 2019
#30
A lot of the needs we call rational are based in our organic nature or social matrix.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#61
Apparently it means substituting cigarettes donuts and bad coffee for alcohol,
Voltaire2
Apr 2019
#44
You just don't like the religious origin and formulation, so I'll give you a non-religious one.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#46
Just pointing out that the serene passivity of 12 step programs is an evidential failure
Voltaire2
Apr 2019
#49
Yep. They usually just gloss over what they don't understand. Too bad. The parables are fabulous!
Karadeniz
Apr 2019
#75
Conclusion: faith alone is never enough. We need reason, science, even more.
Bretton Garcia
Apr 2019
#58
An answer to Guil, and the alleged inevitability of faith, belief, even for rationalists
Bretton Garcia
Apr 2019
#70
Gil relies heavily on imprecise meanings of words without providing definitions
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#73