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In reply to the discussion: Can faith alone ever be sufficient? [View all]Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)20. Yes it is.
1) "Radical Acceptance" (1993) is, deep down, a form of fatalism. Which 2) means "accepting" that there are many things we can't change. And yet the whole history of science tells us that many limitations we thought were timeless, permanent barriers - like diseases - could in fact be cured.
And in fact, 3) the core of motherly advice to children, assumes rightly, that much of their bad behavior can be cured. Likewise, 4) formal education assumes that much bad behavior is occasioned by animal emotions; that can to a large extent replaced by rationality.
And 5) to a large extent, history, observable human progress, suggests that the radical pessimism of Radical Acceptance does not seem justified.
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in general, we are not rational creatures. So no reasoned argument penetrates faith.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#4
Most can distinguish between a logical versus a very emotional argument.
Bretton Garcia
Apr 2019
#30
A lot of the needs we call rational are based in our organic nature or social matrix.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#61
Apparently it means substituting cigarettes donuts and bad coffee for alcohol,
Voltaire2
Apr 2019
#44
You just don't like the religious origin and formulation, so I'll give you a non-religious one.
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#46
Just pointing out that the serene passivity of 12 step programs is an evidential failure
Voltaire2
Apr 2019
#49
Yep. They usually just gloss over what they don't understand. Too bad. The parables are fabulous!
Karadeniz
Apr 2019
#75
Conclusion: faith alone is never enough. We need reason, science, even more.
Bretton Garcia
Apr 2019
#58
An answer to Guil, and the alleged inevitability of faith, belief, even for rationalists
Bretton Garcia
Apr 2019
#70
Gil relies heavily on imprecise meanings of words without providing definitions
marylandblue
Apr 2019
#73