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MineralMan

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43. Well, only 31% of that group aren't supportive. That's not so bad, right?

Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:14 PM

Mar 2019

I mean, even atheists have 6% who aren't supportive of LGBTQ folks, right? So, that's just the same, right? It's not like a 5X difference or anything, right?

Nothing to see here, folks. Theists mostly are supportive. Just ignore the ones who aren't right? It's only 31%. I mean, at least 31% of the entire population of the United States stands solidly behind Donald Trump, right? I wonder if it's the same 31%...hmm...

But, China...don't forget China...

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Survey: Faith groups maintain widespread support for LGBT protection laws [View all] guillaumeb Mar 2019 OP

Does this mean we can blame religion for significantly higher levels of intolerance? Major Nikon Mar 2019 #1

Is intolerance restricted to theists? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #2

So the best answer you can come up with as to why certain religious groups are far more intolerant.. Major Nikon Mar 2019 #5

Once again, you construct with straw. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #8

You finally answered a question with a straight answer and you want to run away from it Major Nikon Mar 2019 #10

The question you need to answer is, does religion make people more or less tolerant? trotsky Mar 2019 #12

Why are followers of New Ages faiths so much more tolerant marylandblue Mar 2019 #13

If religion itself, the willingness to believe, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #17

Who thinks the mere "willingness to believe" causes intolerance? marylandblue Mar 2019 #19

No one, of course. trotsky Mar 2019 #21

What causes intolerance seems to be tribalism. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #22

That's ONE thing. trotsky Mar 2019 #23

And do you refuse to see that religion is one aspect of tribalism? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #25

Yes I do, because religion is not just "one aspect of tribalism." trotsky Mar 2019 #27

Trotsky's Law Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #29

There is more to the Bible than just Jesus' words. marylandblue Mar 2019 #30

The survey referred to seems to suggest differently. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #31

86% of New Agers are pro-LGBT while only 54% of evangelicals are. marylandblue Mar 2019 #34

Correction of your error: trotsky Mar 2019 #38

If you read the article, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #46

If we're only talking about the US Lordquinton Mar 2019 #48

Why do you think that I did so? eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #52

I have given several reasons as to why you might have Lordquinton Mar 2019 #53

Your reply #3 seems to suggest that you see LGBTQ intolerance as a theistic problem. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #54

Faith groups in the UNITED STATES are not the ones pushing anti-LGBT laws? marylandblue Mar 2019 #55

Some are. Of course. And I never denied that. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #56

Right and nobody ever denied that intolerance is confined to theists or non-theists marylandblue Mar 2019 #57

No, that intolerance is pretty much confined to Theists Lordquinton Mar 2019 #59

Well that proves it. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #60

Yes, facts do prove it for me Lordquinton Mar 2019 #64

Wow, you're all over the place Lordquinton Mar 2019 #58

Speaking of all over the place, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #61

And the article also runs counter to your own mantras marylandblue Mar 2019 #62

You abandoned your point really quick Lordquinton Mar 2019 #65

Who has claimed "theistsintolerant"? (Or more specifically, that ALL theists are intolerant?) trotsky Mar 2019 #67

We're Going to need a Bigger Gif... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #68

Yes, I did read the article. That's how I found your error. trotsky Mar 2019 #66

I've been trying to figure out exactly what logical fallacy is going on here Lordquinton Mar 2019 #69

Honestly, a person could write up a research paper based on his posts. trotsky Mar 2019 #70

Motte and bailey, had to look that one up Lordquinton Mar 2019 #71

Per your previous claim that I have "ruined" Du for you, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #72

You make DU suck, yes. trotsky Mar 2019 #73

Your responses are revealing. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #74

They reveal exactly what you have demonstrated to me. trotsky Mar 2019 #75

I meant revealing of your own character. eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #76

Oh really? trotsky Mar 2019 #77

Religion is not defined as "the willingness to believe". Mariana Mar 2019 #50

What on Earth is "the willingness to believe?" MineralMan Mar 2019 #51

Faith groups are pushing all anti-LGBTQIA laws Lordquinton Mar 2019 #3

In China, by contrast, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #4

What does China have to do with the religious support for intolerance? trotsky Mar 2019 #14

The countries worse than China: trotsky Mar 2019 #15

There is much more at the link Lordquinton Mar 2019 #37

And those theists represent a minority view among theists. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #45

Do they now Lordquinton Mar 2019 #47

Reading the thread I see that you are being intentionally unclear Lordquinton Mar 2019 #49

They are also doing so with funds provided by their membership Major Nikon Mar 2019 #6

Reply #4 guillaumeb Mar 2019 #7

yeah, whatabout reply #4 Major Nikon Mar 2019 #9

"tell me how religion is to blame" trotsky Mar 2019 #16

As my posts about China show, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #18

STRAW MAN trotsky Mar 2019 #20

Nobody here has ever claimed that wasn't true except you. MineralMan Mar 2019 #24

I am certain that you beleive that you do. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #26

"Intolerance is a human behavior that is not restricted to atheists or theists." trotsky Mar 2019 #28

No, the real issue with your post is the strawman you created. MineralMan Mar 2019 #32

As you did in your post about LGBTQ rights? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #44

It's really something Lordquinton Mar 2019 #36

Do they support man/boy associations too? Bretton Garcia Mar 2019 #11

Did that poll also include non-theists? Or was it just a self-congratulatory MineralMan Mar 2019 #33

It did include unaffiliated. Here's the breakdown from the article. marylandblue Mar 2019 #35

Unaffiliated is not the same as non-theist. MineralMan Mar 2019 #39

Pew did a survey of self-identified atheists a while back as part of their "Religion in America" one trotsky Mar 2019 #40

But religion has nothing to do with it. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #41

Much higher rates of tolerance among non-believers across the board. trotsky Mar 2019 #42

Well, only 31% of that group aren't supportive. That's not so bad, right? MineralMan Mar 2019 #43

Frankly, I would not have guessed that support would have been that high. bernie59 Mar 2019 #63