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guillaumeb

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80. There can be isolated societies

Wed Mar 6, 2019, 07:20 PM

Mar 2019

where the group is small enough that there are no real differences. but in most cases, we have nations, tribes, societies that ci-exist in proximity to other groupings.

My argument is that intolerance for the other is related to tribalism, and serves as a survival mechanism.

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Is intolerance a human characteristic? [View all] guillaumeb Feb 2019 OP

Yes, it is. But not really one of our better ones. TreasonousBastard Feb 2019 #1

Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #3

The root of... Snackshack Mar 2019 #81

Well said. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #82

Is this thread about intolerance of theists or atheists? marylandblue Feb 2019 #2

It is dealing with both groups. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #4

Now I am really confused. marylandblue Feb 2019 #6

Humans are not "just" humans. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #7

I don't believe I have ever read any study or book on human behavior marylandblue Feb 2019 #15

I mentioned it because some here appear to be shocked guillaumeb Feb 2019 #17

I doubt they are shocked, they seem more frustrated. marylandblue Feb 2019 #19

The religion group deals with humans. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #34

There is no type of science that begins or concludes with "humans act like humans" marylandblue Mar 2019 #36

Channeling the "group speak" with the ending sarcasm? Really? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #40

There is no sarcasm in that post and I have no idea of what you mean by "group speak" marylandblue Mar 2019 #41

No? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #42

Well you don't seem to get it and you didn't answer the question. marylandblue Mar 2019 #43

That was not sarcasm. It was a legitimate question. MineralMan Mar 2019 #53

Have you ever heard of a concept called a rhetorical question? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #62

Have you ever heard of the condescending Dunning-Kruger miscommunication effect? marylandblue Mar 2019 #63

Reply #53 well illustrates that my answer was needed. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #65

He understood. You did not. Or you are being disingenuous. Take your pick. marylandblue Mar 2019 #66

His answer clearly indocated otherwise. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #67

He was explaining my post. Or did you think he was talking about something else? marylandblue Mar 2019 #69

I disagree for this reason. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #70

Yes, that is what I was saying as well. And after going through a long explanation, marylandblue Mar 2019 #72

All that and his only takaway Lordquinton Mar 2019 #45

Well I tried. marylandblue Mar 2019 #52

One reason I gave up on long responces Lordquinton Mar 2019 #56

Laughable. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #68

I don't think that's why theists don't post here. marylandblue Mar 2019 #71

It is a harsh greeting. Or warning, but certainly not a welcome guillaumeb Mar 2019 #73

Context and history are important. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #92

Thanks for supporting my point Lordquinton Mar 2019 #74

reply #71 disagrees with you. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #75

Don't cite my authority for your opinion, because I have none. marylandblue Mar 2019 #93

Too late. trotsky Mar 2019 #94

Post 71 has nothing to do with my point Lordquinton Mar 2019 #95

Of course. It's part of tribalism. bitterross Feb 2019 #5

I agree. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #9

Tolerance is also a human characteristic. marylandblue Feb 2019 #8

I recognize your feeling. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #10

That wasn't a feeling. I believe in being precise. marylandblue Feb 2019 #16

But you returned. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #18

See post 19. marylandblue Feb 2019 #20

I suspect it's also a characteristic of the great apes grumpyduck Feb 2019 #11

Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #12

Long before anyone ever reaches a state procon Feb 2019 #13

Good points. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #14

Is this the Religion forum? trotsky Mar 2019 #21

O RLY Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #22

BUT edhopper Mar 2019 #23

But religions are composed of humans. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #35

Well, the capacity for intolerance is a human characteristic. MineralMan Mar 2019 #24

And it's not like all intolerance is bad. trotsky Mar 2019 #25

On that note, I have started a new thread. MineralMan Mar 2019 #26

If we refuse to tolerate shitposting, does that make us intolerant? Major Nikon Mar 2019 #29

The problem in the Religion Group is some people are intolerant of fine art marylandblue Mar 2019 #27

Well, that's ONE problem in the Religion Group, anyway. MineralMan Mar 2019 #28

Has religion or God edhopper Mar 2019 #30

Unfortunately, the Old Testament includes a number of passages MineralMan Mar 2019 #31

And even though one could argue Jesus taught tolerance edhopper Mar 2019 #32

One could argue Jesus taught tolerance. Mariana Mar 2019 #33

True edhopper Mar 2019 #39

I have heard Christians say the same thing marylandblue Mar 2019 #37

But the logical next question edhopper Mar 2019 #38

"We live in a fallen world" is the usual answer. marylandblue Mar 2019 #44

And God obviously doesn't care edhopper Mar 2019 #47

They admit there is no theological answer in this life for suffering. marylandblue Mar 2019 #49

Funny edhopper Mar 2019 #55

I am talking about a subset of Christians who are more into feelings and good works marylandblue Mar 2019 #57

OK edhopper Mar 2019 #58

I'm gonna make a guess Lordquinton Mar 2019 #46

Perhaps you should guess again. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #48

I did some catching up Lordquinton Mar 2019 #50

It was yet another oops didn't actually read Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #51

Classic G-man Lordquinton Mar 2019 #61

Indeed you were. trotsky Mar 2019 #59

That was like the $100 line on jepardy Lordquinton Mar 2019 #60

Anything more than one human does can be called a "human characteristic." MineralMan Mar 2019 #54

How is it not? (nt) NeoGreen Mar 2019 #64

My argument is that it is a universal behavior. eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #77

So, you deliberately choose to not ask:... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #91

Intolerance of what? the op is unclear Kurt V. Mar 2019 #76

My argument, or assertion, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #78

all human behavior is contingent on our social environment and our genetic endowment. so i would Kurt V. Mar 2019 #79

There can be isolated societies guillaumeb Mar 2019 #80

i understand your argument. how did all the hominids co-exist and cross breed if tribalism was a Kurt V. Mar 2019 #84

Perhaps they were unable to adapt to changing circumstances? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #85

i think leaders of society use this as a tool to gain control. the fear of other is purely a made up Kurt V. Mar 2019 #86

I agree that leaders exploit difference to gain and keep control. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #88

the history of south carolina right aftet the war of 1812 is a good example Kurt V. Mar 2019 #87

Please elaborate. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #89

google it. Its real interesting how blacks (slaves who fought in that war) and whites lived in Kurt V. Mar 2019 #90

Thank you. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #97

The OP is intentionally vague Lordquinton Mar 2019 #96

No man is better than any other man, and no man is less than any otherr man. I do not like c-rational Mar 2019 #83