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edhopper

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57. Free will?

Sun Feb 24, 2019, 01:42 PM

Feb 2019

Good one.
We are suppose to have free will to choose good over evil.
But a great deal of the harm that people have done in the name of God is because they thought they were doing good.
They thought they were sering God. Yet they committed horrible acts.
So God allows people to think they have chosen good, and still do dreadful things in his name.

Free will is the weakest of arguments.

And this doesn't even get into if we actually have free will. Which is open for debate.

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Most Forgiving and Merciful, Not Wrathful God [View all] guillaumeb Feb 2019 OP

loving god murders 250K people with a tsunami. most of the dead are muslims. film at msongs Feb 2019 #1

What an interesting viewpoint. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #2

well if i was the all powerful loving god I would not have murdered all those people nt msongs Feb 2019 #3

Tsunami. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #4

Gods. Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #5

What kind of evil monster puts its creation in such a dangerous place? trotsky Feb 2019 #7

Yawn. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #20

Your counterargument? Bretton Garcia Feb 2019 #39

It is a silly premise, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #47

If God created the whole universe? Bretton Garcia Feb 2019 #49

It's only failed when you believe in a Loki-type god who is an asshole to its creation. trotsky Feb 2019 #41

Is not the deity omnipotent? MineralMan Feb 2019 #19

Guillaimeb's "Creator" isn't a deity. marylandblue Feb 2019 #21

Another iteration of the same failed argument. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #22

Google the word sophistry. MineralMan Feb 2019 #31

Your premise: guillaumeb Feb 2019 #33

No, that is not my premise. MineralMan Feb 2019 #34

Your premise rests upon your own beliefs. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #35

And yours is based on evidence-free beliefs. MineralMan Feb 2019 #38

Theodicy normally is seen as a refutation of religion Bretton Garcia Feb 2019 #40

... trotsky Feb 2019 #42

Google the word "bullshit" Act_of_Reparation Feb 2019 #44

I especially like the last statement gtar100 Feb 2019 #6

Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #23

If we don't know the mind of the Creator marylandblue Feb 2019 #24

Thus the "in my own view" that preceded my statement. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #25

Seems kind of unsatisfying. marylandblue Feb 2019 #27

If............as Christians, guillaumeb Feb 2019 #28

So, just another metaphor? marylandblue Feb 2019 #29

Living the message is metaphor? eom guillaumeb Feb 2019 #32

Life itself can be a metaphor. marylandblue Feb 2019 #36

A direct contradiction to what you said above? Lordquinton Feb 2019 #45

One person's interpretation. trotsky Feb 2019 #8

Whether God is merciful or wrathful, I don't know. edhopper Feb 2019 #9

Well see now, I have it on good authority... trotsky Feb 2019 #10

Isn't that in the atheist text as well... edhopper Feb 2019 #11

But, see, not ALL Muslims, so never you mind... MineralMan Feb 2019 #18

The Creator started the creation. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #37

So God is neither merciful or wrathful edhopper Feb 2019 #43

Isn't that a deist point of view. MineralMan Feb 2019 #46

I did not say that. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #48

So you didn't really answer edhopper Feb 2019 #52

I cannot speak for the Creator. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #54

But does not intervene edhopper Feb 2019 #55

Intervention would be control. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #56

Free will? edhopper Feb 2019 #57

Never figured this one out either. marylandblue Feb 2019 #59

A point of view that does not comport with the... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #12

Isn't there a follow-up Lordquinton Feb 2019 #13

No, they saved some of the livestock... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #14

Right, it was the livestock Lordquinton Feb 2019 #15

Hint, they start with the word... NeoGreen Feb 2019 #16

A metaphor for what? Lordquinton Feb 2019 #17

A metaphor for blind injustice and inhuman demands. MineralMan Feb 2019 #50

I wish I was smart enough to know what is and isn't a metaphor Lordquinton Feb 2019 #58

Well, if something in the Bible isn't actually true, or is contradicted elsewhere in the Bible, MineralMan Feb 2019 #60

The reason is because a merciful god is useless Major Nikon Feb 2019 #30

God welcomes his victims LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #26

Let me inform you of something essential Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #51

You made a decision to click on this post. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #53

And you posted it for people to click. MineralMan Feb 2019 #61

And the same applies, of course, to your own posts. guillaumeb Feb 2019 #62

Tu Quoque. MineralMan Feb 2019 #63

Oh this post is comedy gold. trotsky Feb 2019 #64