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Mariana

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48. I don't agree that faith is a choice.

Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:29 AM

Jan 2019

It isn't for me, at any rate.

Is it really different for you? If it really is a choice for you, would you describe how you go about doing that? How exactly do you convince yourself to believe something that you don't believe? Thanks in advance.

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Is Faith a Cognitive Error? [View all] MineralMan Jan 2019 OP

too black and white/binary. Different shades of faith... NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #1

Well, your examples are for one of the definitions of faith, for sure. MineralMan Jan 2019 #4

understood - just wanted to help clarify. interesting question you posed. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #6

As is the case with many words in the English language, "faith" has more than one meaning Major Nikon Jan 2019 #11

Which of these definitions are you using Mariana Jan 2019 #23

Faith is one of those weasely words... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #2

Well, this discussion is taking place in the Religion Group, MineralMan Jan 2019 #5

Yeah I would hope that would be true... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #7

I think people believe because it feels good, gives comfort and security, . . . mart48 Jan 2019 #3

I think faith is an emotional response, rather than cognitive, really. MineralMan Jan 2019 #10

I think it has to do with our neuropsychology marylandblue Jan 2019 #8

Yes, certainly. MineralMan Jan 2019 #9

It's only a cognitive error if the belief is indeed false Major Nikon Jan 2019 #12

I disagree... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #13

Cognitive error requires an error Major Nikon Jan 2019 #14

The error lies not in the result... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #15

Which isn't an error either in this case Major Nikon Jan 2019 #16

I still don't agree with you... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #17

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I don't agree with you either Major Nikon Jan 2019 #18

Ut-oh. "Error!!1! Error1!11 I'm experiencing cognitive error!11" sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #27

Have you tried pushing the reset button? Major Nikon Jan 2019 #50

My button's busted. 🤕 sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #57

Open up the panel in the back and stick a screwdriver between the jumpers marylandblue Jan 2019 #61

My OS is/has been working mighty fine and not malfunctioning. n/t sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #64

What about the cognitive error 1? It could be serious. marylandblue Jan 2019 #65

I am being mischievously goosed and don't mind atall. sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #66

Do I have a cognitive error? Hmmm. 🤔 sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #84

Then I suggest you try a hard reset Major Nikon Jan 2019 #68

A la Ralph Kramden: "Hardy-har-har." sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #71

Yes. Plus other errors. (nt) NeoGreen Jan 2019 #19

I'd say that faith is a cognitive exception. trotsky Jan 2019 #20

There's something to that classification. Pope George Ringo II Jan 2019 #22

Interesting, isn't that? n/t trotsky Jan 2019 #25

Could be an error, but does necessarily follow that it is a mistake SoFlaDem Jan 2019 #21

Very well said and I could not agree more nightwing1240 Jan 2019 #24

Your 2nd welcome! sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #58

I agree; very well said. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #26

... sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #29

Welcome to DU, and thank you for this excellent response. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #32

I consider myself spiritual rather than religious, but also agnostic marylandblue Jan 2019 #43

This is good. Why not. sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #59

I'm only agnostic on Tuesdays SoFlaDem Jan 2019 #69

In all sincerity, sounds like a +plus to me. n/t sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #72

Just a failure of Cognitive Thinking. nt Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #28

Believing or not believing isn't an error in thinking, it's a choice nightwing1240 Jan 2019 #30

Well said. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #33

I feel no obligation to respect a belief just because someone believes it Major Nikon Jan 2019 #35

Obviously, you missed where I said I respect those that are atheists nightwing1240 Jan 2019 #36

That's not really what you said Major Nikon Jan 2019 #37

I meant no disrespect, I actually meant the opposite nightwing1240 Jan 2019 #45

I cut and pasted from your post Major Nikon Jan 2019 #46

I don't agree that faith is a choice. Mariana Jan 2019 #48

Don't we choose all of our beliefs? marylandblue Jan 2019 #49

No Major Nikon Jan 2019 #51

This isn't just about religious beliefs, but all types of beliefs marylandblue Jan 2019 #52

This is the religious group Major Nikon Jan 2019 #54

Yes, it's the religion group, but all that means is you never went far down that road. marylandblue Jan 2019 #55

Analogies have their place Major Nikon Jan 2019 #62

I don't think so. Mariana Jan 2019 #56

Well, that's what I am talking about, but you said it better. marylandblue Jan 2019 #60

(I hope I don't have to kick myself.) My experience is that sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #63

I think I understand what you're saying. Mariana Jan 2019 #67

'Cradle' Orthodox are presented the Faith b4 they have ability in 'understanding'. sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #70

I'm having to look up words, Sprinkleeninow. Mariana Jan 2019 #75

I wrote two replies and my screen went to google and I'm having a fit. sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #80

Here goes: sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #82

Thank you. Mariana Jan 2019 #85

Yes, Orthodox services for the reposed, those entering into matrimony, sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #86

If you have further interest: sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #83

I think it is self-delusion. A belief you are superior to all others demigoddess Jan 2019 #31

And some deny that their conclusions are only conclusions. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #34

Who is denying that? Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #39

... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #42

Sounds like apologetics Major Nikon Jan 2019 #40

There was a study published recently that Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #38

Full study... Major Nikon Jan 2019 #41

Cognitive error is a broad term Lordquinton Jan 2019 #44

I don't think many religionists suffer from cognitive dissonance Major Nikon Jan 2019 #47

Maybe that's where the guilt and doubt come in Lordquinton Jan 2019 #73

Some have also adopted gaslighting as a best practice Major Nikon Jan 2019 #74

Honestly that's where most of religion stems from Lordquinton Jan 2019 #76

At least they are no longer using wood as fuel Major Nikon Jan 2019 #77

Daym Lordquinton Jan 2019 #78

Fnord. nt OhZone Jan 2019 #53

neuroplasty and classical conditioning StTimofEdenRoc Jan 2019 #79

I think it's just a survival trait, but one that comes with some unfortunate side-effects. Iggo Jan 2019 #81

If faith rejects rational proof, it's irrational Bretton Garcia Jan 2019 #87