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littlemissmartypants

(25,499 posts)
25. Women.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jan 2019

I personally would like to see us return to a more matriarchal, goddess focused, society. Me dreaming again.

Have you read
Jesus and the Lost Goddess: The Secret Teachings of the Original Christians
?

From the Inside Flap

Why Were the Teachings of the Original Christians Brutally Suppressed by the Roman Church?

- Because they portray Jesus and Mary Magdalene as mythic figures based on the Pagan Godman and Goddess
- Because they show that the gospel story is a spiritual allegory encapsulating a profound philosophy that leads to mythical enlightenment
- Because they have the power to turn the world inside out and transform life into an exploration of consciousness
Drawing on modern scholarship, the authors of the international bestseller The Jesus Mysteries decode the secret teachings of the original Christians for the first time in almost two millennia and theorize about who the original Christians really were and what they actually taught. In addition, the book explores the many myths of Jesus and the Goddess and unlocks the lost secret teachings of Christian mysticism, which promise happiness and immortality to those who attain the state of Gnosis, or enlightenment. This daring and controversial book recovers the ancient wisdom of the original Christians and demonstrates its relevance to us today.

About the Author
Timothy Freke (left) has a degree in philosophy, is the author of more than twenty books, and is an authority on world spirituality.

Peter Gandy (right) has an M.A. in classical civilization, specializing in the ancient mystery religions. They have coauthored three previous publications: The Jesus Mysteries, The Complete Guide to World Mysticism, and Hermetica.

For more information on the authors, their books, lectures, and seminars, visit their website: www.jesusmysteries.demon.co.uk
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Here's another resource which supports the notion that a society that is focused on patriarchal supremacy is doomed to failure.

Sex and World Peace

From Amazon Books: Sex and World Peace unsettles a variety of assumptions in political and security discourse, demonstrating that the security of women is a vital factor in the security of the state and its incidence of conflict and war.

The authors compare micro-level gender violence and macro-level state peacefulness in global settings, supporting their findings with detailed analyses and color maps. Harnessing an immense amount of data, they call attention to discrepancies between national laws protecting women and the enforcement of those laws, and they note the adverse effects on state security of abnormal sex ratios favoring males, the practice of polygamy, and inequitable realities in family law, among other gendered aggressions.

The authors find that the treatment of women informs human interaction at all levels of society. Their research challenges conventional definitions of security and democracy and shows that the treatment of gender, played out on the world stage, informs the true clash of civilizations. In terms of resolving these injustices, the authors examine top-down and bottom-up approaches to healing wounds of violence against women, as well as ways to rectify inequalities in family law and the lack of parity in decision-making councils. Emphasizing the importance of an R2PW, or state responsibility to protect women, they mount a solid campaign against women's systemic insecurity, which effectively unravels the security of all.
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Sex And World Peace: How The Treatment Of Women Affects Development And Security
Kate Diamond

https://www.newsecuritybeat.org/2012/05/sex-and-world-peace-how-the-treatment-of-women-affects-development-and-security/

What we have discovered is that the very best predictor of how insecure and unstable a nation is not its level of democracy, it’s not its level of wealth, it’s not what ‘Huntington civilization’ it belongs to, but is in fact best predicted by the level of violence against women in the society,” said Valerie Hudson, co-author of Sex and World Peace, at an April 26 book launch at the Wilson Center. [Video Below]


https://www.newsecuritybeat.org/2012/05/sex-and-world-peace-how-the-treatment-of-women-affects-development-and-security/

Of course there's always more at the link.
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Direct answer from me to your query would be: society is fluid, just like gender. The laws of diminishing returns are more powerful than we think. As the worlds people are forced into migration by hunger and other predicaments, which are directly related to climate change, societal formations will morph and reflect the changes in the many populations that will be forced to work together for survival.
Lots of things are connected to tribalism. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #1
Yes. Only religions can span those time periods. MineralMan Jan 2019 #2
Philosophy, art and science can span those time periods marylandblue Jan 2019 #4
As academic interests, yes. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #10
That's only because you don't live in my neighborhood 😀 marylandblue Jan 2019 #18
Sounds dangerous. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #20
All three are part of the story-telling part of tribalism, really. MineralMan Jan 2019 #19
Politics is "war by other means," that is marylandblue Jan 2019 #5
It's supposed to be, at least. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #13
The basic framework I described in the OP MineralMan Jan 2019 #22
Sounds like you've never been to a Yankees game Major Nikon Jan 2019 #6
More than a few, actually. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #9
Patriotism is tribalism. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #24
Women. littlemissmartypants Jan 2019 #25
By both women *and* minorities. nt TwistOneUp Jan 2019 #28
Thank you for the referral. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #30
Yes. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #31
And what replaces it? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #33
Nonsensical question. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #44
Patriotism does not always lead to war. marylandblue Jan 2019 #32
They also provided banking services for the Nazis. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #34
Like I said, their patriotism did not lead to war. marylandblue Jan 2019 #35
True. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #39
This is just a case of special pleading, marylandblue Jan 2019 #42
No, this is a case of every group approaching things as they feel best. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #45
You said "And patriotism has always led to war." marylandblue Jan 2019 #46
Agreed that the word "generally" instead of "always" would be better. eom guillaumeb Jan 2019 #47
I think that is more important than it may seem marylandblue Jan 2019 #48
An excellent point, and I agree. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #49
Religion tends to support a patriarchal family structure marylandblue Jan 2019 #52
Less prevalent? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #53
Does the government say wives must submit to their husbands? marylandblue Jan 2019 #54
Society does, in many cases. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #55
Yes, society has long been patriarchal, but we've improved. marylandblue Jan 2019 #56
Yes, we have, and yes, some do. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #57
Well not in my family, and I'm sure not in yours marylandblue Jan 2019 #58
Honest assessments of your country edhopper Jan 2019 #37
Exactly. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #50
For a certain segment of the population, yes edhopper Jan 2019 #51
I agree generally, but you left out one powerful motivator cilla4progress Jan 2019 #3
Early tribal humans feared pretty much everything. MineralMan Jan 2019 #7
Cool.... cilla4progress Jan 2019 #8
It's way complicated now. The United States has about MineralMan Jan 2019 #12
Modern people are afraid of pretty much everything, too. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #15
We humans survive because we're fearful, I think. MineralMan Jan 2019 #16
I think it's a mixed bag. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2019 #21
If I were still just 50 years old, I'd be working on books MineralMan Jan 2019 #23
Yes, it's possible civilization will collapse, but I think our species will survive it. marylandblue Jan 2019 #29
Except that we may have ruined MineralMan Jan 2019 #36
The Old Testament is all about tribes. MineralMan Jan 2019 #11
The problem is tribalism married to politics Major Nikon Jan 2019 #14
Yes. Also, we're all part of multiple tribes, often with conflicting rules. MineralMan Jan 2019 #17
Thanks for the post, MineralMan. littlemissmartypants Jan 2019 #26
Oh Yeah? Well, My god can beat up Your god. TwistOneUp Jan 2019 #27
If we agree that religion is just another edhopper Jan 2019 #38
Yep. Iggo Jan 2019 #40
Yes. It's all derived from storytelling within tribal cultures. MineralMan Jan 2019 #41
So it seems to me, but I'm an atheist, so it would, I suppose. MineralMan Jan 2019 #43
Interesting posit Mineral Man. The connection as I see it between religion and tribalism c-rational Jan 2019 #59
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