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Kablooie

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60. I think atheism is more general than that.

Mon Dec 31, 2018, 03:50 AM

Dec 2018

It seems to me that Athiesm is simply an unwillingness to believe in extraordinary and fantastic claims without proof.

Quantum mechanics has extraordinary and fantastic claims but it also offers scientific proof for those claims so we are open to believing it.

No one has offered any kind of proof of an old man with the white beard sitting on a cloud ruling the universe so atheists will not believe it. If,in some hypothetical world, this could be proven to be true scientifically, an atheist also would be open to believing it.

No has any proof of a conscious existence after death either.

I think atheists would be open to accepting these claims if there was verifiable proof that it was true. (A book written by men thousands of years ago is not verifiable proof.)

So atheistic belief is not simply a disbelief in Gods. It's a disbelief in extraordinary and fantastic claims made without and evidence that it is true.

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Atheism Has a Very, Very Narrow Scope, by Definition [View all] MineralMan Dec 2018 OP

And it's so easy! PJMcK Dec 2018 #1

Well, that, too, of course. MineralMan Dec 2018 #3

Yes but violetpastille Dec 2018 #9

Posting on DU is a great exercise that keeps your intellect in good shape. MineralMan Dec 2018 #12

It's not about the posting. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #13

You make an excellent point! MineralMan Dec 2018 #18

I don't believe in wasting time by playing cricket, either Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #19

I'm bothered too violetpastille Dec 2018 #21

Like conflating atheism with Chinese authoritarianism, for example? Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #23

Gotcha. violetpastille Dec 2018 #31

Myth violetpastille Dec 2018 #33

Obviously, it symbolized something. We don't even have the original to speculate, though. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #44

and yet strangely Brainstormy Dec 2018 #2

Many people have a lot invested in their religious beliefs. MineralMan Dec 2018 #4

Some misframe atheism out of ignorance Major Nikon Dec 2018 #5

Ah...there you have it. MineralMan Dec 2018 #6

When it's the latter, one can certainly speculate about the reasons Major Nikon Dec 2018 #42

Similar to thinking people "believe" in science. n/t Beartracks Dec 2018 #53

Reading your post I had to look up the definition of deity. Upon reading several of the definitions c-rational Dec 2018 #7

You know, I've never done that. I will, though. MineralMan Dec 2018 #11

Why are you mad at God? edhopper Dec 2018 #8

Ironic, Isn't It? MineralMan Dec 2018 #10

Why is god mad at me? LakeArenal Dec 2018 #26

That nonsense is exactly what JenniferJuniper Dec 2018 #37

Good thing she did! PJMcK Dec 2018 #39

Of course, it wasn't an apple. They don't grow MineralMan Dec 2018 #48

Do you know the real difference between an Atheist and an Agnostic? Onyrleft Dec 2018 #14

Uh, no. Not at all. MineralMan Dec 2018 #15

History has proven that any BS (Belief System) that you can't take a joke about, Onyrleft Dec 2018 #54

Oh, so you're a joker, then? Your post was a joke, then? MineralMan Dec 2018 #64

I'm sorry to hear your mother's condition is worsening, MineralMan. Mariana Dec 2018 #65

Thanks. It's a difficult time for her and my father. MineralMan Dec 2018 #66

I'm an atheist with two dead parents. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #16

That's like saying edhopper Dec 2018 #17

Or like "There are no atheists in foxholes." MineralMan Dec 2018 #20

what does it say edhopper Dec 2018 #25

It doesn't say much at all, really. MineralMan Dec 2018 #29

After my father's death, predatory religionists came out of the woodwork. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #30

When my younger brother died in 2017, MineralMan Dec 2018 #34

I have a pretty good grip on this one, too. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #46

Well, it's true that funeral services are for the survivors. MineralMan Dec 2018 #47

That is utterly disgusting behavior. Mariana Dec 2018 #36

The sheer banality of evil is always overlooked. Pope George Ringo II Dec 2018 #45

Mine are both gone, and I identify as an atheist The Genealogist Dec 2018 #32

I don't understand JenniferJuniper Dec 2018 #38

Oh like a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #56

Some of the religious are the most "mad at God" people I've ever met Freelancer Dec 2018 #22

Interesting. MineralMan Dec 2018 #24

" Why god 'allows' so many sinners to live?" He made them that way in his perfection.. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #27

what's the use of doing good stuff if you don't get the big rewards? rurallib Dec 2018 #28

You were right violetpastille Dec 2018 #35

Is your cousin a Christian? Mariana Dec 2018 #40

LOL. "Very few Christians would disagree" Good one. Freelancer Dec 2018 #41

It is funny how many Christians don't like the way God runs the show Mariana Dec 2018 #43

That the Universe is utterly impersonal is scarier than thinking it's is ruled by a bad person -nt Freelancer Dec 2018 #49

The impersonal universe is an easier place in which to live. MineralMan Dec 2018 #50

Most people are in the stages -- on the way to the point where you are currently Freelancer Dec 2018 #51

I agree for most situations. MineralMan Dec 2018 #52

Your philosophy isn't a problem solving solving process. Onyrleft Dec 2018 #55

Actually throwing out bad ideas... uriel1972 Dec 2018 #58

Oh and athiesm is not a philosophy... uriel1972 Dec 2018 #59

I didn't claim that it was. MineralMan Dec 2018 #62

I think the inverse should be stated as well Lordquinton Dec 2018 #57

I think atheism is more general than that. Kablooie Dec 2018 #60

That is skepticism. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #61

I suppose you're right. Kablooie Dec 2018 #67

I think you meant "Thighest" MineralMan Dec 2018 #68

No, because I might believe in that. Kablooie Dec 2018 #69

For me, atheism has nothing to do with unwillingness to believe. MineralMan Dec 2018 #63