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guillaumeb

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61. Please, no apologies for an excellent response.

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 05:44 PM

Dec 2018

And I agree that despotic rulers generally do not welcome alternatives to their own will.

Even in what we call the more enlightened countries, especially the Scandinavian countries, outbreaks of Islamophobia and other forms of intolerance arise. It is human nature to be tribal, and competing ideologies are often seen as a threat to the tribe.

All tribes define what it is to be a member of the tribe. In China, under the current system, a "good member" will be an atheist.

As to a natural expression of human nature, given that over 85% of humans define themselves as theists, it seems apparent that theism is the default condition.

I would suggest that you make your reply part of a separate post.

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China Has Highest Percentage of Atheists in the World, Gallup Survey Says [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP

feel free to prove that disbelief of religion is responsible for any of those nt msongs Dec 2018 #1

Just an attempt at dialogue. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #3

Gaslighting. An attempt at gaslighting. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #32

Right. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #44

But religion is the problem. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #46

Wasn't 'religion' forbidden? elleng Dec 2018 #2

Not at this point. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #4

'New' constitution? elleng Dec 2018 #5

Not as far as I know. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6

Since when did Stalin have power over China? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #63

I am certain that you understood what I was saying. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #67

So what were you saying? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #69

I'm certain he has no idea. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #71

If it wasn't about Stalin ruling China Lordquinton Dec 2018 #73

How do Eko Dec 2018 #7

Start another thread. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #8

I guess you dont want to have dialogue. Eko Dec 2018 #9

We are talking. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #10

Oh well, Eko Dec 2018 #11

Humans cannot be so easily divided. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #12

How many do I need to know to do that? Eko Dec 2018 #15

You can obviously have an opinion, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #16

I guess that means that Eko Dec 2018 #17

But if humans in power often behave as totalitarians, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #19

Obviously humans in power Eko Dec 2018 #21

My focus was on the article. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #22

Well there is this. Eko Dec 2018 #23

These secular nations are also much wealthier. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #24

So are you now saying Eko Dec 2018 #25

So you're saying anecdotal experience might not be statistically significant? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2018 #34

Follow your own lead, Guy! Leave me out of it. MineralMan Dec 2018 #36

Read #34 guillaumeb Dec 2018 #47

We have the highest incarceration rate on the planet. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #33

China has concentration camps for theists. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #48

We have concentration camps for African Americans Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #49

So what do we conclude? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #50

That communism is a shitty system Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #51

And who devised both systems? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #52

I'm sure you think you have a point there someplace. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #53

reductio ad absurdum? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #54

I wonder about the terms used by the writer. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #13

I cannot speak for the author. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #14

So religion can never be blamed for bad behavior Major Nikon Dec 2018 #18

Off topic, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #20

... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #28

Is it too soon for the train wreck gif?... NeoGreen Dec 2018 #35

Too late if anything Major Nikon Dec 2018 #38

Perhaps a very bias view of human behavior from this source. safeinOhio Dec 2018 #31

A Gallup poll was referenced. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #43

Also the highest percentage True Dough Dec 2018 #26

Who would have known? Everyone! demosincebirth Dec 2018 #27

Tibet - the Chinese government went after the monestaries with a vengence. gtar100 Dec 2018 #29

But these observations about a repressive Government led by atheists guillaumeb Dec 2018 #45

That they do. gtar100 Dec 2018 #57

Please, no apologies for an excellent response. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #61

Hardcore fundy Baptists saying communism leads to atheism gay texan Dec 2018 #30

And right behind China edhopper Dec 2018 #37

Don't hold your breath. MineralMan Dec 2018 #40

... Major Nikon Dec 2018 #39

That poor trestle! MineralMan Dec 2018 #41

China consumes more rice than any other country edhopper Dec 2018 #42

The Chinese Government just announced that they were going to rate applegrove Dec 2018 #55

A good point. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #56

The statistics on atheism in China Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #58

Chinese culture has long included Confucianism, which MineralMan Dec 2018 #59

Daoism also goes back thousands of years Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #60

True on all counts MineralMan Dec 2018 #62

Can you post a link to the survey? Lordquinton Dec 2018 #64

I couldn't find either, and I'm pretty good at that. MineralMan Dec 2018 #65

Found it: MineralMan Dec 2018 #66

Thank you. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #68

Interesting Lordquinton Dec 2018 #70

It's interesting that none of the places that MineralMan Dec 2018 #72