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PoindexterOglethorpe

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17. It takes a lot of work to maintain the cognitive dissonance

Thu Dec 13, 2018, 09:31 PM

Dec 2018

that is faith. You must believe in many contradictory things while pretending there are no contradictions. That takes a lot of energy.

And when I think of all the horrors perpetrated in the name of religion, your statement that affirming the basic belief that there is a God causes one to act in a beautiful way is laughable.

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How to Press the Reset Button on Faith [View all] guillaumeb Dec 2018 OP

and immediately the issues is...whose God? Which god? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2018 #1

That issue is for each believer to decide. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #2

but if each believer has a different solution, doesn't the next step always lead to conflict? NRaleighLiberal Dec 2018 #3

All of human history shows that tribalism is a constant and necessary feature. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #6

++1! gtar100 Dec 2018 #15

Faith is for fools. Red Raider 85 Dec 2018 #4

Calling all people of faith fools? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #7

Everyone is capable of being fooled Major Nikon Dec 2018 #12

Diverting from the point. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #33

Argle Major Nikon Dec 2018 #45

The fool knows in his heart he's right. MineralMan Dec 2018 #14

A wiser man knows that there can be facts that he has not checked, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #34

I see you have missed the point again. MineralMan Dec 2018 #35

Ironic, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #37

Bargle... MineralMan Dec 2018 #49

Much better. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #53

"one to act in a beautiful way and to work towards meeting this Lord who sustains His creation." msongs Dec 2018 #5

I think faith is something different than religion. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #8

I understand your point. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #9

Some people affirm their belief in gods by slaughtering innocents. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #10

Another sermon Major Nikon Dec 2018 #13

Yes, the obvious nonsense argument. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #38

Why is that obvious nonsense? marylandblue Dec 2018 #48

Faith is busting your ass to try to believe in something you know can't possibly be true. 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #11

If that's what you believe faith is, then it's understandable why you would reject it as real. gtar100 Dec 2018 #18

If your definition of faith in God is so elastic that marylandblue Dec 2018 #19

I would agree with that...if. gtar100 Dec 2018 #22

I'm saying your answer to 3hotdogs is a non sequitur marylandblue Dec 2018 #24

I'm not seeing it that way. Op is about faith and the good it can lead to (in a nutshell) gtar100 Dec 2018 #27

OP is about cognitive belief in a supernatural being that ostensibly marylandblue Dec 2018 #29

Not what was said. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #39

You don't have it right either. marylandblue Dec 2018 #46

I believe I'll have another beer Major Nikon Dec 2018 #70

Indeed! gtar100 Dec 2018 #71

Many people believe in God, but their actions are not beautiful marylandblue Dec 2018 #16

It takes a lot of work to maintain the cognitive dissonance PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #17

I don't agree that contradiction is a must when it comes to faith. gtar100 Dec 2018 #20

Sure it is. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #21

Faith doesn't depend on what the Bible says either. gtar100 Dec 2018 #25

Okay, so take the Bible out of the equation. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #26

I'd say that abberation is a product of our time, almost our entire historical timeline. gtar100 Dec 2018 #28

"a tool that can be used to for both good and evil" trotsky Dec 2018 #32

What tool cannot? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #41

That's way too vague of a question to seriously answer. Try being more specific. trotsky Dec 2018 #44

No, the question is legitimate, and the answer is obvious. eom guillaumeb Dec 2018 #52

Why - do you think I'm too stupid to understand it? trotsky Dec 2018 #56

Oh and just so you don't have any weasel room, I'll answer your misleading question. trotsky Dec 2018 #58

An interesting response. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #72

So you agree you were wrong. trotsky Dec 2018 #74

Ahimsa. There's a human concept that cannot be used for evil. MineralMan Dec 2018 #59

Mathematics Major Nikon Dec 2018 #60

Damn, that's quite the list for him to ignore. trotsky Dec 2018 #69

And one can see many people doing terrible things in the name of country. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #40

What I don't do is make blanket statements about how wonderful a force for good PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2018 #42

Nor do I. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #50

So you agree that your op is bullshit. Voltaire2 Dec 2018 #54

No, you judge it to be so, guillaumeb Dec 2018 #73

This is the Religion Group, Gil. Mariana Dec 2018 #62

There's no profit motive for doing "great good" with religion Major Nikon Dec 2018 #23

"what those people are doing wrong, not faith itself." trotsky Dec 2018 #31

"Faith takes work." - Not true. trotsky Dec 2018 #30

My ending: guillaumeb Dec 2018 #36

"And you have no idea how people of faith arrive at their conclusions." trotsky Dec 2018 #43

So, this reply of yours contradicts your previous reply. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #51

Nope, but nice try. trotsky Dec 2018 #55

Contradiction doesn't mean what you think it means Major Nikon Dec 2018 #63

I'm pretty sure it involves delusion Major Nikon Dec 2018 #64

He's gonna call you something, it's just what he does. trotsky Dec 2018 #65

Or better yet, just a simple "off" button. (nt) NeoGreen Dec 2018 #47

The author made no attempt to "press the reset button on faith", nor tries to explain muriel_volestrangler Dec 2018 #57

Yeah, reset with the original assumption fully intact Major Nikon Dec 2018 #61

I pressed the Reset Button on Faith. MineralMan Dec 2018 #66

Reset (n) probably isn't the right word to describe the author's experience. Mariana Dec 2018 #67

Yes. More of an update of the software, so to speak. MineralMan Dec 2018 #68

Nice. trotsky Dec 2018 #75

Thanks! MineralMan Dec 2018 #76