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In reply to the discussion: This for 'someone' of 'rank' where we were in another thread and I dint get to [View all]Bretton Garcia
(970 posts)34. There were thousands of Jewish martyrs, would be Messiahs, from many tribes.
Some thought they could resurrect. Or live on in memory (Sirach).
Most cultures have stories of heroes dying to save their people. It's a common kind of story, worldwide, historically.
Before Jesus, you could say Socrates died as a martyr for Reason.
Some scholars suggest that the story of Jesus was doctored, redacted; to make it look like earlier stories, prophesies. Especially the birth and resurrection narratives. The beginning and end of stories are where scribal additions are most likely to take place.
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This for 'someone' of 'rank' where we were in another thread and I dint get to [View all]
sprinkleeninow
Sep 2018
OP
Not agreeing with that. I can't, of course. So then, shall we begin with your Torah.
sprinkleeninow
Sep 2018
#4
The texts themselves hint, allude, prevaricate, equivocate, metaphoricalize
Bretton Garcia
Sep 2018
#20
Eastern Orthodox. I'm Slavic Orthodox descent. What is now Slovakia (Carpathian Mtn. Region).
sprinkleeninow
Sep 2018
#33
Those who build on old murderous directives. .. are "just" the beneficiaries of murder.
Bretton Garcia
Sep 2018
#13
It's also true that some bail on discussion around the point serious dialog is offered
Major Nikon
Sep 2018
#11
I read some "interesting" replies claiming that Jesus is not found in the OT.
guillaumeb
Sep 2018
#28
There were thousands of Jewish martyrs, would be Messiahs, from many tribes.
Bretton Garcia
Sep 2018
#34
Interesting you'd think the best examples you could google support this claim
Major Nikon
Sep 2018
#38