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trotsky

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28. Exemptions from mandatory reporting of crimes should have valid reasons.

Reply to qazplm135 (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:19 AM

Sep 2018

In the case of attorney-client privilege, it's because your attorney's job is to represent you. They are paid to advocate for YOU in court. That's understandable.

In the case of physician-patient privilege (where it is valid), it is to ensure the patient is treated properly.

These are understandable and reasonable exceptions.

Please explain why confessions to clergy should be a reasonable exception. You claim they will be "less likely to confess to a religious figure." OK, so right now, they can confess all they like and we can't know about ANYONE. That's better than a world where some people still confess, and we are able to prosecute them?

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A Proposal: Remove All Privileges of Religious Organizations that Exceed [View all] MineralMan Aug 2018 OP

K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #1

1st amendment zipplewrath Aug 2018 #2

Special treatment of religious organizations also violates the 1st Amendment. MineralMan Aug 2018 #3

You're oversimplifying a complex issue. Jim Lane Aug 2018 #8

Is polygamy legal? Act_of_Reparation Aug 2018 #4

Nope zipplewrath Aug 2018 #5

"Sacraments" are irrelevant. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #9

Hardly irrelevant zipplewrath Sep 2018 #10

So you think our objection to confessionals being exempt from mandatory reporting laws is... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #11

Roughly zipplewrath Sep 2018 #12

Fascinating. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #13

What reality? zipplewrath Sep 2018 #14

The one where there's a public interest to placing conditions on confessional cofidentiality. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #15

I won't pretend to try to mind-read your reasoning on it qazplm135 Sep 2018 #17

It's a good thing you don't have to. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #18

can the sarcasm qazplm135 Sep 2018 #20

No. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #22

I never effing said anyone qazplm135 Sep 2018 #23

Read. The. Thread. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2018 #24

lol qazplm135 Sep 2018 #25

Sorta my point zipplewrath Sep 2018 #19

it is absolutely not simply about qazplm135 Sep 2018 #21

Tax exemptions for churches was always a lousy idea. Girard442 Aug 2018 #6

501c(3) entities are exempt from taxes. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #36

I agree. Nitram Aug 2018 #7

Can't agree with 2 qazplm135 Sep 2018 #16

Exemptions from mandatory reporting of crimes should have valid reasons. trotsky Sep 2018 #28

Because qazplm135 Sep 2018 #29

Here's the problem with that: MineralMan Sep 2018 #31

they could qazplm135 Sep 2018 #38

In Pennsylvania, some children were given gold crosses to wear MineralMan Sep 2018 #40

yet some studies show that the recidivism qazplm135 Sep 2018 #41

Actually, no. I don't believe that any such privilege should MineralMan Sep 2018 #42

the privilege doesn't put anyone "above the law" qazplm135 Sep 2018 #44

To your point: guillaumeb Sep 2018 #32

no it's both concept and reality qazplm135 Sep 2018 #39

And absent the privilege, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #43

well duh of course it probably would not occur qazplm135 Sep 2018 #45

"it is ostensibly the religious figure will convince the wrongdoer to turn themselves in" trotsky Sep 2018 #46

A nonsense question. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #50

It wasn't a question. It was a request. trotsky Sep 2018 #59

Separation of church and state should mean at140 Sep 2018 #26

Yup. MineralMan Sep 2018 #27

Agreed on #1. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #30

So what? Your agreement is not my goal in any way. MineralMan Sep 2018 #33

TIFs are basically excusing corporations from paying taxes. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #34

Completely irrelevant to this discussion. MineralMan Sep 2018 #35

Always best to avoid what cannot be refuted. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #37

I understand your need to tell people what is best. Permanut Sep 2018 #47

Thank you for being understanding. eom guillaumeb Sep 2018 #51

lol Lordquinton Sep 2018 #55

Trees in the red oak group take two growing seasons Mariana Sep 2018 #48

Whataboutism Lordquinton Sep 2018 #49

Perhaps you should ask someone about this response of yours. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #52

You are technically correct Lordquinton Sep 2018 #54

Thank you. Can we build on that? guillaumeb Sep 2018 #56

It's really not relevant though Lordquinton Sep 2018 #57

Because churches are 501c(3) entities guillaumeb Sep 2018 #58

So the topic is churches and you say "Whatabout walmart" Lordquinton Sep 2018 #60

No, the topic is churches, and exemptions. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #61

Paying Taxes Has Nothing Whatsoever to Do With The Practice of Religion dlk Sep 2018 #53