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marylandblue

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2. They actually have made changes over the course of time

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 09:56 AM

Sep 2018

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Usuallyunder extreme duress. They responded to the Reformation with the Counter-Reformation. They responded to modernism first by digging in their heels in Vatican I, then by acquiescing in Vatican II. A lot has changed since Vatican II but they haven't kept up with the changes. So I think they will respond to the 21st Century when it becomes too painful for them not to. I Think they are already at this point, but I don't know if they know it yet.

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The Roman Catholic Church Has Had 1800 Years [View all] MineralMan Sep 2018 OP

And here's that Act of Contrition in Latin, MineralMan Sep 2018 #1

They actually have made changes over the course of time marylandblue Sep 2018 #2

We shall see. MineralMan Sep 2018 #3

I'm amused by the calls for Bergoglio to resign. Pope George Ringo II Sep 2018 #4

Well, the RCC always promotes from within, so MineralMan Sep 2018 #5

When Catholic friends and relatives say to me, cyclonefence Sep 2018 #6

Well, most priests would never sexually molest a child. MineralMan Sep 2018 #7

Absolutely cyclonefence Sep 2018 #8

You raise an excellent point. MineralMan Sep 2018 #10

The Archbishop of Boston called out Pope Francis marylandblue Sep 2018 #14

5-7% apparently shanny Sep 2018 #12

Hmm... MineralMan Sep 2018 #13

Yes, it's a lot of priests shanny Sep 2018 #15

Organizations Are As They Do. MineralMan Sep 2018 #18

And do you expect perfection? guillaumeb Sep 2018 #20

I did not see that expectation of perfection at all MineralMan Sep 2018 #22

I asked a question, so my response to you is: guillaumeb Sep 2018 #47

Priests, who are called to their vocation *by god*, cyclonefence Sep 2018 #43

Predators go where there is prey. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #46

No kidding cyclonefence Sep 2018 #49

I fail to see how anyone could object to what you wrote. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #55

Priests are people qazplm135 Sep 2018 #27

Priests are people who take on their vocation cyclonefence Sep 2018 #44

same could be said about anyone qazplm135 Sep 2018 #50

No, it's the *job* that is special cyclonefence Sep 2018 #52

sure qazplm135 Sep 2018 #53

That 1800 years is probably one big reason why it's so resistant to self-improvement. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #9

Well put. MineralMan Sep 2018 #11

it has however made itself filthy rich using the threat of eternal damnation nt msongs Sep 2018 #16

Prosperity Gospel. Give and Ye Shall Also Receive? MineralMan Sep 2018 #17

So you have discovered that imperfect humans are....... guillaumeb Sep 2018 #19

Yet another non sequitur? MineralMan Sep 2018 #21

Christians have known that the RCC has been Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #34

You demonstrated that you misread my observation. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #38

We are discussing sexual abuse of children Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #48

We are discussing admittedly imperfect humans, guillaumeb Sep 2018 #54

No really we are discussing the sexual abuse of children Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #56

Incorrect. eom guillaumeb Sep 2018 #57

And men in general have had at least six thousand years of recorded history thucythucy Sep 2018 #23

Yes, it is men who do the molesting in 90% of the cases. MineralMan Sep 2018 #24

And I don't disagree with your criticisms of the Catholic Church. thucythucy Sep 2018 #25

Thanks. I often despair at the behavior of men, too. MineralMan Sep 2018 #28

Now place what you said here into the context of my post about the RCC guillaumeb Sep 2018 #26

No, thanks, guillaumeb. I understood you just fine. MineralMan Sep 2018 #29

No, you clearly did not. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #30

Late to this conversation but trying to catch up. I also don't understand guillaumeb's erronis Sep 2018 #31

There are no "rationalizations" as you characterize them, simply observations. guillaumeb Sep 2018 #37

No disagreement here. Tribalism and various other biases are what make us. erronis Sep 2018 #40

The extent to which this specific institution has acted Voltaire2 Sep 2018 #33

Well, since it's probably the oldest patriarchal institution thucythucy Sep 2018 #39

Also evident in the great apes, other primates, and other religions. erronis Sep 2018 #41

It's depressing to think of rape happening in other species. thucythucy Sep 2018 #45

Perhaps there are lots of moving parts.. JHan Sep 2018 #58

Thank you for a very interesting read. thucythucy Sep 2018 #59

I think self-immolation is appropriate. bitterross Sep 2018 #32

Power and money. WhiteTara Sep 2018 #35

They may need to rethink all that pretty soon. MineralMan Sep 2018 #36

really. WhiteTara Sep 2018 #42

Absolute Power Corrupts... dlk Sep 2018 #51