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Starboard Tack

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60. Why would I compare myself to you. We are not alike.

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:12 AM

Jan 2015

1. I don't compare myself to you. I said I had hope for you there, for a while. You seemed to want to do the right thing.

2. Yes, I thought it was an interesting thing for an atheist to say too. That's why I said it. And "No!" that is not why I was "shown the door". We already went over that one. I and my family were cyber stalked by one of the hosts. I stood up to it, wagons were circled and I was turned away by the high priests.
Regarding the existence of a soul, I do not find this incompatible with atheism and am not the only atheist to think that. Feel free to use your searching prowess. Follow the dance steps carefully. You might learn something.

3. Atheists don't believe in deities. Period. Your flavor of atheism is not everyone's. Sorry to disappoint you on that.

4. Did I say you'd been warned or cautioned? Didn't think so. Didn't get close to that before you aquiesced. You are obviously a much better atheist than I. Hell, I kept talking about horrible things like tolerance and toning down the nastiness toward believers. This got me the label "apologist". I saw your performance quite differently. Damn, they were hardly out of their kennels when you came to heel. Watch Rashomon

How come we're still talking, btw? Have you quit alerting?

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Mormon Church Threatens Critic With Excommunication [View all] JDDavis Jan 2015 OP

Apostasy? He actually tries to persuade people to stay cbayer Jan 2015 #1

Apostasy is not about church membership. merrily Jan 2015 #55

Churches don't conform to your ideals. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #86

Time to give up the fiction of the church edhopper Jan 2015 #2

People's right to believe and the "reality" of those beliefs cbayer Jan 2015 #4

How dare I edhopper Jan 2015 #6

You can question it all you want. I question it and reject it as well. cbayer Jan 2015 #8

What do you call believing edhopper Jan 2015 #9

I call it a belief that effects me not one iota. cbayer Jan 2015 #10

I admit I only read your post edhopper Jan 2015 #14

Unfortunately I can't listen to the TED talk, but I will at cbayer Jan 2015 #15

That's probably true about the two groups edhopper Jan 2015 #19

The missionaries are interesting. cbayer Jan 2015 #20

I plan to edhopper Jan 2015 #21

I was really, really luck to snap tickets right after it opened in NYC. cbayer Jan 2015 #22

The Mormon Church is one of the biggest funders of those who favor anti-LGBT laws. merrily Jan 2015 #58

The Mormons also have a growing pro-GLBT civil rights movement that cbayer Jan 2015 #68

Mormon individuals, yes. An example of that is what this thread is about. Not the Mormon church. merrily Jan 2015 #69

Change happens with individuals. cbayer Jan 2015 #72

My post was about the current positions and acts of the Church, not its individual dissidents. merrily Jan 2015 #80

If the position of the church changes, a new church will be born. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #70

I don't agree. The Mormon church actually has a history of making cbayer Jan 2015 #71

If you're right, we might both live to find that out. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #77

I hope that we both will. cbayer Jan 2015 #78

The mormon church has a history of doing that when the government holds a gun to its head. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #91

If the mormon church is wrong about this, then it cannot pretend to hold revealed truth. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #89

Keep pretending non-belief and XYZ belief belong 'on the table' together. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #24

Just because someone has a "right" to an idea, doesn't mean that idea is sacrosanct. Major Nikon Jan 2015 #25

My objection here was not on calling bullshit on the ideas. cbayer Jan 2015 #29

The real world has coffee. Infinitely better. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #88

Bull shit they're equal. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #87

The first rule of the Magic Underwear Club... Man from Pickens Jan 2015 #3

No edhopper Jan 2015 #5

IMO, a religion's requires secrecy from its members about religious beliefs and merrily Jan 2015 #56

Excellent talk. xfundy Jan 2015 #7

You are most welcome. JDDavis Jan 2015 #11

What events of the week from the LDS church? I must have missed that. cbayer Jan 2015 #13

An event that is, basically, what I suggested a long time ago, and that you attacked me about. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #26

Doubtful Major Nikon Jan 2015 #28

I agree that they are extremely well organized and powerful, but, as you note cbayer Jan 2015 #30

Yet they usually come across as nice friendly people Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #16

I'm an extremist live and let live supporter. A stretch perhaps, in real life. pinto Jan 2015 #18

Please see Reply 58. merrily Jan 2015 #61

You weren't banned from A&A for 'stepping out of line', and you know it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #27

Really? I think calling out the bullies, bigots and cyber stalkers was too much for some. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #31

Ah, yes. okasha Jan 2015 #32

Almost lost his standing there till he was reined in by the bishops. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #33

THIS is the kind of shit that got you banned. Right here. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #45

How was it a hoot, my friend? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #47

You presume a lot. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #44

No, you caved! Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #48

Who is 'they'? AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #50

Maybe you should be more concerned with your own behavior Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #51

"I was excommunicated for doing what you tried to do." AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #53

Why would I compare myself to you. We are not alike. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #60

You can't even go two posts in a thread fork without contradicting yourself. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #63

I'm wasting your time? LOL Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #65

I hope the entirety of DU is reading this thread, and your posts in particular, very carefully. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #66

I hope so too. Your obsession with me and distorting what I said is quite extraordinary Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #67

There was zero distortion, and you know it.. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #73

Total distortion born of total obsession Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #74

I can't distort other people's posts. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #75

Plenty of other people came to the same conclusion? LOL Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #76

Nobody smeared you in that thread. You did it all yourself. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #34

Starboard Tack has been blocked from the Atheist and Agnostic group: beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #35

Thank you so much for your diligence, BMUS Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #36

. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #37

LOL. Didn't realize Starboard Tack was ex-communicated from th A&A Group. I'm out of that loop. pinto Jan 2015 #38

Don't care. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #39

Whoa, did you miss the point or what. BMUS, I think I ought to step out of this 3rd party side talk. pinto Jan 2015 #40

Must have. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #41

Where is the rewrite BEMUS? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #42

'into the BS'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #46

Thanks for the repost. I stand by that, silly as it may be. I made my point. Others misconstrued it. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #49

And yet you spew anti-SSM talking points, that you still 'stand by'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #52

Except I support same sex marriage and always have. I support all consensual marriage Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #54

No, you don't support consensual marriage. You just defended a post where you attacked people AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #57

Oops sorry! Did I attack bigots who want to tell me who or what I'm allowed to marry? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #62

Your 'point' perfectly overlaps with one of the classic right wing anti-same-sex-marriage talking AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #64

People can get blocked from DU groups because of who they marry? stone space Mar 2015 #84

They mostly get blocked for their assholish behaviour. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #85

The #1 reason given in the post you quoted was marriage. stone space Mar 2015 #90

Wrong again. It was lying by omission. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #92

Why does any DU group care who any of us marries? (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #93

When did you stop beating your wife? beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #94

Did you even read the #1 reason you posted? stone space Mar 2015 #95

Nobody's buying what you're selling dude. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #96

Why do you even care any of us marry? stone space Mar 2015 #97

My you think highly of yourself. I actually don't give a fuck about you at all. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #98

But you do give a fuck about patrolling the marriages of others. stone space Mar 2015 #99

If it were up to me he would have been banned from DU for his homophobic posts. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #100

You posted his marriage as reason #1. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #101

It's because of his marriage *SQUAWK* beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #102

That group needs an ejector seat. stone space Mar 2015 #103

Certainly not the only one. Htom Sirveaux Jan 2015 #12

I appreciated the guy's talk a lot. Found some of it condescending and paternalistic. pinto Jan 2015 #17

What parts did you find "condescending and paternalistic"? JDDavis Jan 2015 #23

Many religions are paternalistic and a hell of a lot worse than condescending to merrily Jan 2015 #59

Lucky!!! Iggo Jan 2015 #43

I see that Mark Charles got banned again. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #81

He's never gone for long and he is getting better and better faking out the people cbayer Mar 2015 #82

You know I really thought he was behaving. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #83