Religion
In reply to the discussion: If you cannot disprove the existence of God, or prove the existence of God [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)For starters, I didn't broad-brush any religious communities. A religion is an idea, not a person, let alone a collection of people. A group of people can share a religion, but that's not the same thing. I am not 'broad brushing' that community when I criticize some aspect they hold as part of their faith.
"You cannot prove or disprove God. No matter how hard you or I try.. it is not a possibility."
I don't need to disprove god. Not perceiving the existence of a god is the default position when people seeking to claim there is a god, fail to prove it.
And who are you to place limits on god? What do you mean, it's impossible to prove the existence of god? Are you seriously suggesting a supernatural omnipotent being couldn't make him/her/itself known to us, if it chose to?
"Your previous posts stating it was my position to prove there was a God.. reminds me so much of those in Texas who are hell bent on trying to put creationism in science classes because they have this belief that the world is only 6000 years old.. Their religious texts go back only 6000 years but that has nothing to do with the world.. its the religious texts. "
Nice false equivalency. I'm not seeking to put 'there is no god' in science books. It's a non-issue in that aspect. So I really don't know what you're trying to say here, beyond desperately trying to flip some utter nonsense by some religious people around as a utterly false characterization of my position.
"I respect both for their places in how we understand the world."
Religious faith has so far told us not a damn thing about the world, the universe, or our place in it. Not one thing.
Until a religion actually proves its claims about origins of life/universe/creator/etc, it has no place in helping us understand the world, because it reveals no truth whatsoever about the world. None.
"There is nothing for me to prove, or for you to prove.. they are different things.. and calling my ideology (which you do not know) a f@@king hoax.. is your issue.. I can't help you.. "
THEN BY ALL MEANS, keep it to yourself. Don't legislate/lobby/pass laws based on religious nonsense. Then you and I and the rest of the people that believe in whatever, never even have to speak to one another.
Certain religious groups in this country lobby to deny my fellow humans basic civil rights. People who aren't even members of those religious groups. They lobby to deny emergency contraceptive access, abortion, and other family planning issues. Try to interfere with laws, in MY IVF CYCLE, attempting to control how many eggs I and my wife choose to fertilize or implant. They lobby to control many aspects of MY LIFE, so don't pretend RELIGIOUS HORSESHIT is OFF THE TABLE AND CANNOT BE CRITICIZED OR TALKED ABOUT.
I get to talk about and criticize THINGS THAT ARE BEING JAMMED UP MY ASS VIA THE COURTS AND LEGISLATURE.