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Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. You are paying them to copy the art and sell it to you
Wed Mar 1, 2023, 03:08 PM
Mar 2023

Book Baby is not your friends and family. They are a business that is going to sell you a book they printed. In order to print that book and sell it to you, they need permission of all the copyright owners pertaining to the contents of the book.

YOU might not be selling it, but they certainly are selling it to you.

Aside from which, copyright law does not care if you are selling it or not. Copyright law is about the right to make copies, period, which is what you are asking them to do.

The kind of "personal use" exemption that grew up around people making their own backups of things, or time-shifted viewing of broadcasts, does not extend to you and 99 clones of you.

If you copy material which is subject to copyright, and give that copy to someone else, you are certainly violating the copyright. All that music filesharing that went on in the early 2000's was free too, and was just people sharing their own copies. It does not matter.

Now, you *might* have a fair use argument if you nail all the factors for that, such as only copying as much as needed for comment, criticism, etc., but the publisher is not going to sign on to your legal defense for you since they are the ones doing the copying.

But giving away free copies of something doesn't excuse copying material which is subject to copyright. Never has.
copyright has nothing to do with if the book is for public or private. anything you create has msongs Mar 2023 #1
I am willing to do this. And to state it is for private use only. CTyankee Mar 2023 #2
You are paying them to copy the art and sell it to you Effete Snob Mar 2023 #3
Book Baby did my first book which was the same format and type of content. CTyankee Mar 2023 #6
Was all of the art in existence prior to 1923? Effete Snob Mar 2023 #9
no. Some of the later works were in the 50s and 60s. CTyankee Mar 2023 #10
Unless it is your personal art ... relayerbob Mar 2023 #4
Not that it matters, but my book shows the art and discussses the artist's ideas, motivation, etc. CTyankee Mar 2023 #5
That someone has posted art on the internet is also not relevant relayerbob Mar 2023 #7
This would be typical of what I write: CTyankee Mar 2023 #8
It's complex relayerbob Mar 2023 #11
I thought about having BB make just one copy and then I could pass it around at family events. CTyankee Mar 2023 #12
Going back to the argument "no better than stealing someone's car." CTyankee Mar 2023 #13
Actually, no, not correct relayerbob Mar 2023 #14
Stolen art is one of my favorite subjects. People who want to steal it usually do so thinking CTyankee Mar 2023 #15
You are intentionally bypassing the point relayerbob Mar 2023 #16
Thank you for your comments. CTyankee Mar 2023 #17
Since you have "mentioned" this, I will call your attention to this: CTyankee Mar 2023 #18
Don't equate yourself with the National Gallery of Art relayerbob Mar 2023 #19
Moi aussi. CTyankee Mar 2023 #20
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