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anobserver2

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29. Deception #3 in Memoir: Grad school / omission
Mon Jun 13, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Tue Jun 14, 2022, 04:41 PM - Edit history (1)

(6/14 Update: I need to edit this, now that I know better what happened.)

As I recall, this memoir does not give any dates or an easy way to understand Patterson's life.

The timeline of his life as it relates to his education seems to me to be missing some material information,
because right now his education in grad school does not make sense to me. Here's why:

1) Vanderbilt University. a private university in Nashville, TN, has on its website a paragraph about James Patterson,
and here is what it states:

James Patterson, MA'70


https://www.vanderbilt.edu/alumni/about/award-distinguished-alum.php

2) In other words, that university is saying: He has completed a graduate degree - a Master of Arts degree. He finished it in 1970.

3) However, that university also says on its website, that to complete a Master of Arts in English, it takes: two years.
Here is where it says that: https://as.vanderbilt.edu/english/phd-degree-requirements/

4) So, here is what I don't understand: He was not in their MFA program - for a Master of Fine Arts in Creative Writing. Rather,
he was in their English program, which does not typically offer any terminal MA degree.

5) Consequently, what is the timeline here? He was born in March 1947. He went to Catholic school and graduated at age 18, which
makes the year 1965. Then he spent 4 years at Manhattan College, which means we are now at 1969. So, he goes to Vanderbilt in 1969 - and then, in one year only, he gets a 2-year terminal Masters of Arts degree which they typically do not award?

6) It sounds to me like: he entered Vanderbilt in 1969, and maybe did enter a 5-year program for a masters and doctorate, which at that university, is fully funded for five years. https://as.vanderbilt.edu/english/phd-admissions/

7) But, for some reason, he dropped out after only one year.

8) And then, when he became wealthy, the university decided: give this rich guy a terminal Masters of Arts now, because who knows, maybe he will donate a ton of money to the school. I say that because I can not figure how he got a 2-year terminal Masters in English from a university that does not issue such a degree, when he appears to only have been there: 1 year.


In short, there is some missing info about his educational background is what it seems to me. Missing from his memoir. Maybe he entered Vanderbilt in 1968, and not 1969? If so, that cuts into his memoir claim he worked at the Fillmore East. because that venue only opened in 1968.

Whatever went on, he should be saying: "I have an MA from Vanderbilt University." End of story. Because that would match the university's public claim.

But he never does that. Instead, he always says something about having a PhD or being admitted to a doctorate program, which can give one unfamiliar with this university the impression: I finished my Masters, and then got accepted into a doctorate program.

And it's not a "3-year" doctoral fellowship as some reviewers I read wrote. That program is generously funded for each masters/doctorate student for a full five years. And a possible 6th year.

With that kind of scholarship support, during a time of war, it is very odd to me that he: dropped out.

He says he left because he didn't want to be a teacher. I can believe that he did not want to teach.

But why on earth didn't he stay for their creative writing program and the MFA terminal degree? Was he rejected for that program? Was his writing deemed: not good enough, at that point in his life?

To sum up: I just think there is more info needed to understand the actual educational story of James Patterson - but, as usual, whatever has been omitted, you won't find in his memoir.

This may not be a material omission to some. But if you are a person seeking to understand the educational background of someone famous, then, it is a material omission.






Have it. Haven't gotten around to it. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #1
His "writing factory" gets very little space in this 300+ page memoir anobserver2 Jun 2022 #4
See pages 249-250 anobserver2 Jun 2022 #11
Thanks for the specifics ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #51
Also read this: Harvard Business Review, March 2012 anobserver2 Jun 2022 #12
And this: page 259 of his memoir (an unnumbered page) anobserver2 Jun 2022 #13
It seems he has promoted two versions of the structure of his writing factory anobserver2 Jun 2022 #14
Note to: any of his "writing factory" writers anobserver2 Jun 2022 #15
PS Here's the NY Post article about the lawsuit a writer filed against Patterson anobserver2 Jun 2022 #16
Also: Patterson's new memoir makes no mention of any lawsuit against him by a writer anobserver2 Jun 2022 #17
Two organizations for writers in the writing factory - Author's Guild and National Writers Union anobserver2 Jun 2022 #18
Questions someone should be asking these writers in his writing factory anobserver2 Jun 2022 #19
Well, of course it doesn't ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #48
I used to read all his books but now I think he just doc03 Jun 2022 #2
I think he still writes the Cross books, but other than that, I agree. rsdsharp Jun 2022 #3
Yeah, I think now he is really much more like a publisher anobserver2 Jun 2022 #5
I meant to add: And Equity, and all the other unions anobserver2 Jun 2022 #6
"crap, about crap" is the opinion of a reviewer I read - and I agree anobserver2 Jun 2022 #7
He's following the Dumas formula ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #49
James Patterson is an anomaly anobserver2 Apr 2023 #52
I do hope you meant to educate people ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #55
P.S. anobserver2 Apr 2023 #54
When I have time I will write a list of discrepencies I found in this memoir anobserver2 Jun 2022 #8
Excerpt from above link anobserver2 Jun 2022 #9
Well, that's a first ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #50
I think Patterson did the same thing as Frey anobserver2 Jun 2022 #10
Well, every review seems to be wonderful anobserver2 Jun 2022 #20
Great news: Library Journal panned Patterson's new memoir anobserver2 Jun 2022 #21
More about Library Journal anobserver2 Jun 2022 #22
So glad they panned it!!! anobserver2 Jun 2022 #23
The UK's Telegraph panned it, too anobserver2 Jun 2022 #24
Well, I almost thought today was Juneteenth - but it's not anobserver2 Jun 2022 #25
From June 20, 2022 New Yorker magazine: "How James Patterson Became the World's Best-Selling Author" anobserver2 Jun 2022 #26
Deception #1 in Memoir: North America anobserver2 Jun 2022 #27
Deception #2 in Memoir: Vietnam-era Law re draft anobserver2 Jun 2022 #28
Deception #3 in Memoir: Grad school / omission anobserver2 Jun 2022 #29
Deception #4 in Memoir: Re Harvard anobserver2 Jun 2022 #30
No Masters degree - he's not a "distinguished alumni" anobserver2 Jun 2022 #31
So - what was he doing from 1970-1971? anobserver2 Jun 2022 #32
Deception #5 in Memoir: His working life before advertising anobserver2 Jun 2022 #33
Deception #6 in Memoir: His false channeling of John Lennon anobserver2 Jun 2022 #34
Deception #7 in Memoir: How He Got Hired in Advertising anobserver2 Jun 2022 #35
Deception #8 in Memoir: Misrepresenting book anobserver2 Jun 2022 #36
Deception #9 in Memoir: "Outline!" anobserver2 Jun 2022 #37
Deceptions #10 #11 and #12 in Memoir to come anobserver2 Jun 2022 #38
Will try to finish this thread today anobserver2 Jun 2022 #39
Deception #10 - Pages 114-116 / Re full page ad in the NY Times 1984 anobserver2 Jun 2022 #40
Deception #11 in Memoir: Money, and Pages 120-121 - "the fine art of negociating" anobserver2 Jun 2022 #41
Deception #12 in Memoir - re Veterans anobserver2 Jun 2022 #42
Celebrity Index - Dolly Parton anobserver2 Jun 2022 #43
James Patterson & Bill O'Reilly book anobserver2 Jun 2022 #44
A Letter from James Patterson to me, August 1985 anobserver2 Feb 2023 #45
Patterson's Memoir (June 2022) vs Patterson's letter to me (August 1985) anobserver2 Feb 2023 #46
A novel idea anobserver2 Feb 2023 #47
How to Get On NYT Best Seller List anobserver2 Apr 2023 #53
RE Vietnam Draft anobserver2 Jan 2024 #56
job offer anobserver2 Jan 2024 #57
I liked these reviews on Good Reads anobserver2 Jan 2024 #58
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