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3. From the AP article:
Thu Oct 17, 2019, 06:00 PM
Oct 2019
The California law will require co-workers requesting the orders to have "substantial and regular interactions" with gun owners to seek the orders and co-workers and school employees must get approval from their employers or school administrators before seeking them. People seeking the orders will have to file sworn statements specifying their reasons for doing so.
Would it rise to being a crime to request an order without proper foundation?

The measure was opposed by gun owners’ rights groups and the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU said the bill “poses a significant threat to civil liberties” because orders can be sought before gun owners have an opportunity to contest the requests.
The article goes on to say that those allowed to request orders may be lacking in skill or be outside the relationship limits needed to assess and determine if the measure is appropriate.

Assemblywoman Jacqui Irwin has a bill which...
...allows judges to issue search warrants at the same time as they grant the orders. The warrants can be used immediately if the gun owners are served with the relinquishment orders but fail to turn over the firearms or ammunition.
So should your disturbed child threaten to 'go full-auto' via AK-47 on a classmate or teacher, the police determine this is an unfounded threat by searching your home for a rifle that doesn't exist?

IMO, unless these types of laws are EXTREMELY limited and have well implemented means for judicial challenges, there will not be found a can big enough to house all these worms.

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