Ghost Guns Are Everywhere in California

[Alea]

78. You completely ignore self defense in all your replies

Since the first human walked this planet there have been humans that wrongfully kill for gain or because they are crazy, and there have been humans willing to kill to stop them. Killing in self defense is a inherent human right from day one. It doesn't matter if it's with a bone, or a rock, bare hands, or a gun. You're right about guns being made to kill, but they are not made or sold solely to murder. Murder with a gun is no different than murder with a car, rock, hammer, knife, bare hands, or any other object that can be used to attack and kill someone. When someone attempts to murder us, we have the inherent right to stop them, killing them if that's what it takes.

So when it comes to that argument that guns are specifically made to kill... yes, and thank god for it because I would have a pretty hard time defending myself against someone intent on killing me otherwise. Aside from war, the reasons the population of this Country have guns that kill, is for self defense killing. Out of the 300 plus million people in this country, only a small amount obtain a gun to murder, and no gun manufacturer or gun store sells guns for murder. The fact that they get used to murder is no different, zero, than a hammer used to murder with, even if a hammer is not specifically made to kill.

With that said, when was the last time you gave a shit about anyone killed with a car, or a hammer? When was the last time you cared enough about a whole family wiped out by a drunk driver enough to post about it on the internet like you post about killings with guns? Even though far more are killed with cars and hammers and drunk drivers. Yes it's tragic when 20 kids are killed in a school by a maniac. It makes the news and everyone cares and says we must do something. Yet in that same day more kids die in auto accidents. In that same week more kids are killed by drunk drivers. In that same year far more kids, and adults will be killed by cars, rocks, knives, or some other object that isn't a gun, and you won't care enough to post about it unless maybe one of those non gun deaths is someone close to you.

I'll bet you one thing. If someone you love and care about is about to be murdered, and they use a gun to kill their assailant, you will be glad they are alive and glad they had access to a gun. You may hate the fact that they had to do it, but you will be glad they killed in self defense with no other choice and are still with you. Don't even try to tell me with a straight face that you would rather have your loved one murdered than use a gun to save that life.

I'm not picking on you personally. The use of the word "you" is for anyone that tries to make the argument you are trying to make in this thread or anywhere else.