Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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46. Odd ...

Reply to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #38)

Sun May 26, 2019, 03:44 AM

May 2019

Right. When gun advocates say out loud (and they do) that

their right to a gun, and implicitly to murder me or anyone else, is more important than my right to life, that's when I start saying we should confiscate the guns.

I have never heard a gun rights advocate proclaim the right to murder anyone. Implicitly? Murder is explicitly forbidden by the criminal code.

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Ghost Guns Are Everywhere in California [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 OP

Nice! Gun fetishists putting our kids at risk. sharedvalues May 2019 #1

Wrong on multiple levels. Straw Man May 2019 #2

Some folks manufacture guns discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author EX500rider May 2019 #4

Pious fraud is part and parcel of gun control advocacy. That was merely the latest example. friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #5

Wow, that's a long thread! MarvinGardens May 2019 #6

NRA is a terrorist organization sharedvalues May 2019 #7

None of which substantiate your original claim. We've seen this sort of thing before: friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #8

I know I'm old when gejohnston May 2019 #9

nra indirectly condones death by guns jimmy the one May 2019 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Alea May 2019 #11

If the Parkland asshole gejohnston May 2019 #12

Ah, "indirectly" ... Straw Man May 2019 #14

Some truly believe that mere repetition of a claim is a sign of veracity... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #17

Would you prefer the term "willingley facilitates"? guillaumeb May 2019 #28

Not at all. Straw Man May 2019 #48

The modern NRA is a front organization for the weapons industry. guillaumeb May 2019 #58

Correction. Straw Man May 2019 #59

We disagree. eom guillaumeb May 2019 #63

Yes, we do. Straw Man May 2019 #64

And we're back discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #65

flapdoodle in the straw jimmy the one May 2019 #70

Let me make it clearer for you. Straw Man May 2019 #73

You didn't address: NRA is a terrorist organization sharedvalues May 2019 #13

Not that I disagree- but mere repetition of a claim is no indicator of truth friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #16

The NRA is a terrorist organization, though. sharedvalues May 2019 #18

"You didn't address my point" Said 'point' is merely a repeated claim, made with much handwaving... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #20

The NRA gets our kids killed. Therefore it enables terrorism. sharedvalues May 2019 #22

Any solution in mind ? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #23

Solution to NRA getting kids killed: disband the NRA sharedvalues May 2019 #24

You're aware that the lobbying org is the ILA right? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #25

You're aware how much gun and ammo CEOs funnel to the NRA right? sharedvalues May 2019 #43

I wasn't aware that CEOs funnel any guns or ammo to the NRA. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #51

"Disband the NRA" by mindlessly parroting your claims to everyone we know? friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #32

You have to admit without the NRA, the only guns left would be muskets & Colt SAAs discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #33

You seem to misunderstand how politics works. sharedvalues May 2019 #42

Gay marriage was achieved by action, not mindless repetition of slogans... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #62

Willful misunderstanding. sharedvalues May 2019 #66

Some of us understand empty sloganeering quite well... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #74

Denial. Straw Man May 2019 #47

I see no advocacy of the killing of school children ... Straw Man May 2019 #15

God the bull shit never ends does it. Bad parenting? Combined with a fucking GUN! wasupaloopa May 2019 #30

Yes -- bad parenting. Straw Man May 2019 #45

less gun ownership rates the reason for less shootings jimmy the one May 2019 #71

Clinton-era declines are a red herring. Straw Man May 2019 #72

red herring in the straw jimmy the one Jun 2019 #90

Feh. Chronic logorrhea in the service of bluster friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #91

Relevance. Straw Man Jun 2019 #92

strawker forgets gun control & decline in gun ownership rates jimmy the one Jun 2019 #93

Implication. Straw Man Jun 2019 #94

egg face foot mouth syndrome jimmy the one Jul 2019 #96

It took you a while ... Straw Man Jul 2019 #97

LA Times article was pro gun control jimmy the one Jul 2019 #98

NSS. Straw Man Jul 2019 #99

not speculation jimmy the one Jul 2019 #100

Yes, speculation. Straw Man Jul 2019 #101

What does the NRA do to prevent school shootings? Actually they work toward more wasupaloopa May 2019 #29

What does Bloomberg do? gejohnston May 2019 #40

Expecting the NRA ... Straw Man May 2019 #49

No no no no the tool is made for killing and is used to kill children in school. That you wasupaloopa May 2019 #52

Don't presume ... Straw Man May 2019 #61

........... gejohnston May 2019 #19

Sometimes the best one can hope for... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #21

Guns make us safer! PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #26

The fact that we have the second amendment that has been interpreted wasupaloopa May 2019 #31

re: "...the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #34

"I care about the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness." MarvinGardens May 2019 #36

Right. When gun advocates say out loud (and they do) that PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #38

implicitly to murder me or anyone else, is more important than my right to life gejohnston May 2019 #41

Really? I am affected by non existant gun laws if I PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #44

Just some general discussion discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #55

actually, there are thousands of gun laws in the US gejohnston May 2019 #57

BTW, about the lands down under discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #88

Odd ... Straw Man May 2019 #46

Wasn't it Joe the Plumber PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #53

Joe the Plumber? Please. Straw Man May 2019 #60

Just a few fine points here discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #95

The 2nd Amendment only applies to MILITIAS. And Scalia got bought by gun companies sharedvalues May 2019 #77

Have a link: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #82

That's just false. Here's some truth for you. sharedvalues May 2019 #83

Enjoy the flat earth while you can n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #84

I'm sorry you choose to persist in bad-faith arguments sharedvalues May 2019 #85

re: bad-faith discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #86

An obvious (and clumsy) propagandist lecturing others about 'bad faith'? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2019 #89

Guns get our kids killed sharedvalues May 2019 #75

Guns are designed to kill. guillaumeb May 2019 #27

I might accept that sniper rifles are designed to kill but guns in general? Not so much other guns. discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #35

Guns are designed to kill. guillaumeb May 2019 #37

If guns in general aren't designed to kill, then what are they designed for? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #39

This gun ... Straw Man May 2019 #50

I bet if you get in front of a gun designed PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #54

Just to make a point: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #56

Once again, with rare exceptions guns are designed to kill living things. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #67

A difference without a distinction discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #68

Further discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #69

You completely ignore self defense in all your replies Alea May 2019 #78

re: "If someone you love and care about... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2019 #87

Evidence that the NRA is a terrorist organization. sharedvalues May 2019 #76

Authoritarians and moral panic-mongers love the "Won't somebody think of the children?" schtick friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #79

You're not the first demagogue to sanctimoniously proclaim that you're trying to 'save' children... friendly_iconoclast May 2019 #80

Here's a link: discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2019 #81