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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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44. Last but not least re: "...JOKE"
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 07:02 PM
Feb 2019

In balance, laws and decisions and opinions on legal matters must devolve from a hierarchy of foundational principles, precedents and other laws. Title 10 § 246 of the US Code was obviously formulated such that the unorganized militia exists and, by name, is the militia or a part thereof. Holding the opinion that members of the unorganized militia are not part of the militia when they are so named by law in 1903. Surely the Justice's decision in Miller could not have missed the relevance of this law written in their lifetimes.

I would further suggest that the text of the Second Amendment and the 1903 law both agree that the RKBA is an individual right. As Chief Justice Marshall said, "It cannot be presumed that any clause in the Constitution is intended to be without effect...". The effect of "the right of the people to keep, and bear arms, shall not be infringed" is rather clear. Trying to suggest that this protection of the RKBA is somehow undone by the prior clause mentioning the militia is to suggest that what the Founders wrote and that what the states ratified was not clear. And that further, in 1903, Congress again recognized the people in general as the unorganized militia with no purpose or effect in mind.

The US Constitution, of which the Bill of Rights is a part, is important in being the first of its kind but mostly in its survival and the diligence with which it has been studied and emulated around the world.

I take your non-response as accepting all of this.

United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 OP
What weapons are appropriate to a State militia? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #1
Well regulated means well equiped. gejohnston Dec 2018 #3
well-regulated militia member murders his wife sharedvalues Dec 2018 #4
appeal to emotion, gejohnston Dec 2018 #7
Nope, appeal to facts. Woman murdered. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #8
about facts, gejohnston Dec 2018 #11
Nearly everything you said is false. Please read here. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #15
Vox gejohnston Dec 2018 #16
Vox is truth seeking media sharedvalues Dec 2018 #19
the average Vox writer gejohnston Dec 2018 #21
This is a rightwing talking point. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #22
no, it is objective fact gejohnston Dec 2018 #23
An example of an article with internal inconsistencies discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #29
So if you pay taxes in Ferguson, Missouri... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #12
No, but if you buy ammo, you're complicit in Sandy Hook sharedvalues Dec 2018 #14
That just smells like more "flexible logic" n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #26
See the list of small arms here discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #5
And Scalia's later Heller decision was motivated by politics. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #2
re: "Originalism is a bullshit excuse..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #6
Originalism is Republican bullsh*t. As i said. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #9
Thanks, I will read it but, respectfully... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #10
Respectfully, Scalia, Heller, and "originalism" get Americans killed sharedvalues Dec 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author gejohnston Dec 2018 #17
Please continue to defend Republican judges nm sharedvalues Dec 2018 #18
I defend the BoR, gejohnston Dec 2018 #20
"Well-regulated militia" sharedvalues Dec 2018 #25
which meant you show up with your own gun and gear gejohnston Dec 2018 #27
bulloffal on equipped jimmy the one Jan 2019 #38
To "regulate" the equipment of the militia would apply to #1, yagotme Jan 2019 #39
I am right, you are wrong. gejohnston Jan 2019 #40
no rebuttals, just ad homs & cheap shots & tap dancing jimmy the one Jan 2019 #41
only a postload of ad hominem & cheap shots gejohnston Jan 2019 #42
you're confused discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #43
Legal Definition of in pari materia discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #28
re: germane discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #24
miller vs unorganized militia jimmy the one Jan 2019 #30
re: "This 1939 supreme court ruling on miller was UNANIMOUS." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #31
unorganized militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Jan 2019 #34
Thank you: "It is an opinion..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #35
The current existing law from Title 10 of the US Code discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #36
Last but not least re: "...JOKE" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2019 #44
Two comments. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #32
You are dead wrong on just about everything jimmy the one Jan 2019 #33
Problems with some of your comments: yagotme Jan 2019 #37
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