Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
38. bulloffal on equipped
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jan 2019

johnston: Well regulated means well equiped.

johnston, defining 'well regulated': which meant you show up with your own gun and gear if called and is well equipped.

How many times are you going to repeat this bulloffal? Tired of playing whack-a-mole over the years with your specious word twisting and misconceptions disinformation & misinformation.
Point out to me which definition in websters 1825 contemporary dictionary defines 'regulate' as 'equip':

websters 1825 dictionary: REG'ULATE, verb transitive
1. To adjust by rule, method or established mode; as, to regulate weights and measures; to regulate the assize of bread; to regulate our moral conduct by the laws of God and of society; to regulate our manners by the customary forms.
2. To put in good order; as, to regulate the disordered state of a nation or its finances.
3. To subject to rules or restrictions; as, to regulate trade; to regulate diet.

http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/regulate

Answer GONG, nowhere. Regulate does not mean to equip, nor does equip mean to regulate.
A well regulated militia should be equipped with arms yes when drilling or bearing, but that is an ancillary part of being well regulated.
An UNorganized militia however would not need be equipped with arms, as is seen by the current state of the unorganized militia.

The definition of 'equip' in websters 1825 does indeed define it as providing clothes or items properly so as to dress or to 'habit', and indeed arms can be furnished to military or militia so as to equip them. However, providing arms is simply an example as to what can be used to equip - arms are not the underlying definition of equip. Equip means to dress properly, whatever the body or entity may be. Webster used the example of equipping a regiment as an example.

EQUIP', verb transitive
1. Properly, to dress; to habit. Hence, to furnish with arms, or a complete suit of arms, for military service. Thus we say, to equip men or troops for war; to equip a body of infantry or cavalry. But the word seems to include not only arms, but clothing, baggage, utensils, tents, and all the apparatus of an army, particularly when applied to a body of troops. Hence, to furnish with arms and warlike apparatus; as, to equip a regiment.
2. To furnish with men, artillery and munitions of war, as a ship. Hence, in common language, to fit for sea; to furnish with whatever is necessary for a voyage. http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/equip

habit: 3. State of any thing; implying some continuance or permanence; temperament or particular state of a body, formed by nature or induced by extraneous circumstances; as a costive or lax habit of body; a sanguine habit
http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/habit



United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939) [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 OP
What weapons are appropriate to a State militia? guillaumeb Dec 2018 #1
Well regulated means well equiped. gejohnston Dec 2018 #3
well-regulated militia member murders his wife sharedvalues Dec 2018 #4
appeal to emotion, gejohnston Dec 2018 #7
Nope, appeal to facts. Woman murdered. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #8
about facts, gejohnston Dec 2018 #11
Nearly everything you said is false. Please read here. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #15
Vox gejohnston Dec 2018 #16
Vox is truth seeking media sharedvalues Dec 2018 #19
the average Vox writer gejohnston Dec 2018 #21
This is a rightwing talking point. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #22
no, it is objective fact gejohnston Dec 2018 #23
An example of an article with internal inconsistencies discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #29
So if you pay taxes in Ferguson, Missouri... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #12
No, but if you buy ammo, you're complicit in Sandy Hook sharedvalues Dec 2018 #14
That just smells like more "flexible logic" n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #26
See the list of small arms here discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #5
And Scalia's later Heller decision was motivated by politics. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #2
re: "Originalism is a bullshit excuse..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #6
Originalism is Republican bullsh*t. As i said. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #9
Thanks, I will read it but, respectfully... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #10
Respectfully, Scalia, Heller, and "originalism" get Americans killed sharedvalues Dec 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author gejohnston Dec 2018 #17
Please continue to defend Republican judges nm sharedvalues Dec 2018 #18
I defend the BoR, gejohnston Dec 2018 #20
"Well-regulated militia" sharedvalues Dec 2018 #25
which meant you show up with your own gun and gear gejohnston Dec 2018 #27
bulloffal on equipped jimmy the one Jan 2019 #38
To "regulate" the equipment of the militia would apply to #1, yagotme Jan 2019 #39
I am right, you are wrong. gejohnston Jan 2019 #40
no rebuttals, just ad homs & cheap shots & tap dancing jimmy the one Jan 2019 #41
only a postload of ad hominem & cheap shots gejohnston Jan 2019 #42
you're confused discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #43
Legal Definition of in pari materia discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #28
re: germane discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #24
miller vs unorganized militia jimmy the one Jan 2019 #30
re: "This 1939 supreme court ruling on miller was UNANIMOUS." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #31
unorganized militia is a JOKE jimmy the one Jan 2019 #34
Thank you: "It is an opinion..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #35
The current existing law from Title 10 of the US Code discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #36
Last but not least re: "...JOKE" discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2019 #44
Two comments. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #32
You are dead wrong on just about everything jimmy the one Jan 2019 #33
Problems with some of your comments: yagotme Jan 2019 #37
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»United States v. Miller, ...»Reply #38