Gun Control & RKBA

sharedvalues

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5. This is all a load of distraction.

Sat Dec 29, 2018, 09:19 AM

Dec 2018

We need to focus on a simple principle, borne out by data and research:

Fewer guns means fewer people killed.

Its also useful to focus on:
Gun companies want more guns so they can make more money.

Similar circumstances as:
Asbestos
Tobacco
Leaded gasoline.

We are killing people so companies can make more money.

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Millions of kids fear being killed at school. It's time for adults to say: enough. [View all] sharedvalues Dec 2018 OP

thanks media, gejohnston Dec 2018 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Dec 2018 #2

My kids are adults, gejohnston Dec 2018 #3

This is all a load of distraction. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #5

Agreed; comparing guns to asbestos... is a distraction n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #6

Same profit motive--corporations wanting to sell deadly stuff to make money. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #9

re: "...corporations wanting to sell deadly stuff to make money." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #12

Cool, you support asbestos AND guns! sharedvalues Dec 2018 #13

Cool, you can make stuff up discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #25

re: profit motive discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #57

still not a valid argument gejohnston Dec 2018 #8

Republicans stopped govt from funding research sharedvalues Dec 2018 #10

not true either, gejohnston Dec 2018 #14

You're wrong. DU has discussed this at length sharedvalues Dec 2018 #15

That's nice, gejohnston Dec 2018 #17

Wrong. Read link above. Fewer guns, fewer dead kids. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #19

I've heard about some... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Dec 2018 #16

don't have any, gejohnston Dec 2018 #18

Read the link above. Fewer guns, fewer deaths. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #20

From your link ... Straw Man Dec 2018 #22

Yup. You don't understand how the scientific method works. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #23

Do tell. Straw Man Dec 2018 #24

Read the article sharedvalues Dec 2018 #29

C'mon now. I read the article. Straw Man Dec 2018 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Dec 2018 #21

Good work. Canada is another good example sharedvalues Dec 2018 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author sfwriter Dec 2018 #33

Guns can be used for evil purposes or for good purposes. ... spin Dec 2018 #4

A gun is a simple tool discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #7

True. Guns can and are used to kill children. sharedvalues Dec 2018 #11

My daughter had recently graduated from high school ... spin Dec 2018 #31

Please read reply #1 guillaumeb Dec 2018 #28

Research on the number of times firearms are used for legitimate self defense is ... spin Dec 2018 #32

actually not true, gejohnston Dec 2018 #35

Dr. Arthur Kellerman, stated: discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #38

But with those odds, that undercuts the reason many give for owning guns. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #27

It undercuts the need for cops, gejohnston Dec 2018 #34

Oh, this crap again. krispos42 Dec 2018 #36

What astounds me, gejohnston Dec 2018 #37

It's focusing on the hardware krispos42 Dec 2018 #40

No, I'd say you're just wrong. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #43

ad hoc logical fallacy gejohnston Jan 2019 #44

Non-sequitur fallacy. Truth: Fewer guns, fewer dead kids sharedvalues Jan 2019 #45

Wealth inequality gejohnston Jan 2019 #46

False: let's focus on Canada sharedvalues Jan 2019 #48

wrong about everything as usual gejohnston Jan 2019 #49

False. The truth--Canada: few handguns on streets, few deaths. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #54

ad hoc fallacy gejohnston Jan 2019 #55

Non sequitur fallacy. Fewer guns, fewer deaths. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #61

and you don't know gejohnston Jan 2019 #64

I'm sorry you're unaware of the definition of "non sequitur" sharedvalues Jan 2019 #66

I simply pointed out a gejohnston Jan 2019 #67

"Non sequitur": point that is irrelevant sharedvalues Jan 2019 #68

Nobody is advocating for kids getting killed. Straw Man Jan 2019 #69

The truth: Mexico:few guns on street (legally), many deaths. yagotme Jan 2019 #60

What evidence and/or proof do you have to back up this claim? oneshooter Dec 2018 #41

I suggest reading the article I linked. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #42

IOW, "I like this editorial, therefore it is accurate and you should simply accept my word for it" friendly_iconoclast Jan 2019 #71

Proper secured storage is a good thing. ManiacJoe Jan 2019 #47

Mere moral panic mongering, the likes of which we've seen before: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2019 #50

"Won't somebody *please* think of the children?" friendly_iconoclast Jan 2019 #51

Except: kids ARE getting killed. It's a fact. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #63

You're far from the first to sanctimoniously proclaim that you're trying to 'save' children... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2019 #70

As a gun owner, this is not a compelling argument. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #52

As a gun and ammo buyer, you're complicit in kid deaths sharedvalues Jan 2019 #53

i remember when teachers would use that logic about buying weed. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #56

The new Prohibitionists hate guns (on the L), and migrants (on the R) friendly_iconoclast Jan 2019 #59

That's fair: if you advocate for gun control you're doing good. sharedvalues Jan 2019 #62

I'm interested to know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2019 #65

No feed for you, but bless your heart Alea Jan 2019 #58