Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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79. Control: In short, I'm against it. I mostly agree with what you said.

Reply to Pope George Ringo II (Reply #66)

Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:35 PM

Oct 2018

I'm especially against arbitrary control. Attempts to control require some level of the general populace accepting such control. Certain malcontents among us never will and a subset of these actively work against control. Some of us own guns without a serial number made before serial numbers were required. Some of us own RADAR detectors. Some folks grow their own pot.

Several times I have explained that the only real control is self-control. Examples of well controlled populations are small and expensive to maintain. ADX Florence would be one example.

I accept and advocate cooperating with certain controls such as those on agents like BZ and Sarin and those on explosives. Rules on full-auto guns seem reasonable to me.

In general, freedom is freedom. Accept no substitutes.

If you think guns cause evil, you're part of the problem.

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What is the use you would have for owning an AR-15? [View all] CreekDog Feb 2018 OP

None- these are made for killing people and I don't want to do that RainCaster Feb 2018 #1

This samir.g Feb 2018 #2

Why do you hate women? Always Right Feb 2018 #8

shooting at a target is not a use. It is practice for something else. Is she demigoddess Feb 2018 #29

Agree to disagree Always Right Feb 2018 #34

"shooting at a target is not a use." EX500rider Feb 2018 #35

Funny, I didn't see any AR15s on the Olympics website. flamin lib Oct 2018 #50

And yet lots of shooting competitions do use them. Most people can't afford Olympic level guns. EX500rider Oct 2018 #67

The Olympics caters to the lowest common denominator. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #71

Then tell ex500 not to cite the Olympics as a reason to own an AR15. flamin lib Oct 2018 #74

The .22lr is not the "choice" of the Olympics. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #84

The AR15 is none of what you say it is. Fantasize as much as you want flamin lib Oct 2018 #96

The AR-15 is the gold standard for high power target shooting hack89 Oct 2018 #97

Wow. Assuming your resume is accurate, ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #98

To characterize yourself as an "amateur" is generous to say the least. I'm still looking for one... Marengo Oct 2018 #100

I was responding to a post that claimed target shooting was not a use or sport. EX500rider Mar 2019 #156

Of course it is a use hack89 Mar 2018 #44

Curious. Do you feel the urge to have high-capacity clips? Or bump stocks? Night scopes? erronis Oct 2018 #52

That's nice - enjoy your hobby hack89 Oct 2018 #59

Some of us enjoy both hobbies. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #72

Gunners always have the best arguments. I don't know where they come from. I used to think it was wasupaloopa Oct 2018 #106

Not sure "weapon of choice" would be an accurate description. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #109

The media has been telling people for years that the AR-15 is only good ... spin Nov 2018 #115

Sorry, I can't think of any. Marie Marie Feb 2018 #3

I can't even come up with some wise-ass response - murder, death, & mayhem aren't funny. NBachers Feb 2018 #4

I have friends who hunt with them. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #5

I use mine for competitive target shooting hack89 Feb 2018 #6

So you have no use for them at home? CreekDog Feb 2018 #9

I don't own guns for self defense. I live in a very safe town. nt hack89 Feb 2018 #10

I have built 5 oneshooter Feb 2018 #25

Zombies vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #7

Yep. narnian60 Feb 2018 #26

I would feel confident sarisataka Feb 2018 #11

We have some gun lovers here, I have blocked most of them. redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #12

Some of my friends living in rural areas tortoise1956 Feb 2018 #23

How could you understand? You've blocked all the ones who have answered. EL34x4 Mar 2018 #41

chew toy for my dog The Mouth Feb 2018 #13

Several good reasons Puha Ekapi_2 Feb 2018 #14

wow, you went a year without a post that didn't involve guns CreekDog Feb 2018 #19

I use DU... Puha Ekapi_2 Feb 2018 #20

so, posting about guns on DU is entertainment for you? CreekDog Feb 2018 #21

Guns, shooting, and RKBA... Puha Ekapi_2 Feb 2018 #22

All your points are valid and understandable by me... pbmus Oct 2018 #55

Most younger shooters I see on the pistol ranges are using semi-automatic ... spin Mar 2018 #38

So glad you posted Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #131

If I was going to get one, it would be for self-defense krispos42 Feb 2018 #15

Come out west, gejohnston Feb 2018 #16

I used to live in South Dakota and Minnesota krispos42 Feb 2018 #17

It's a conspiracy I tell you, gejohnston Feb 2018 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Alea Feb 2018 #24

Protecting my family OU65802 Feb 2018 #27

In these days and times, the foremost reason to own an AR... ADX Feb 2018 #28

Found this about a year back: LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #130

Thanks for posting that, friend... ADX Dec 2018 #135

If I was parachuting into an IS IS stronghold, I'd want one. Short of that, can't say I 'd have Atticus Feb 2018 #30

even then, gejohnston Feb 2018 #32

Militaries don't use AR-15 RearwinRoyce Oct 2018 #62

U.S. Navy aboard ship. Ships are made of steel with long companion ways flamin lib Oct 2018 #68

Navy used M14 now M4. RearwinRoyce Oct 2018 #70

He claims to know "probably more about firearm development and its effect on warfare than most" Marengo Dec 2018 #120

"I hold a C&R FFL, own more guns than I have fingers, know local and national laws and probably... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2018 #147

Don't have a use for an AR-15 or any semi-automatic Kaleva Feb 2018 #31

Might I suggest ... Straw Man Mar 2018 #36

Because I was tired of the SKS. ileus Feb 2018 #33

If I move to a more rural area of Florida and find feral hogs on my property... spin Mar 2018 #37

You beat me to it. luvs2sing Feb 2019 #153

I can see how a semiautomatic rifle would come in handy ... spin Feb 2019 #154

I have no need for one....yet kudzu22 Mar 2018 #39

I have no reason, which is why I don't own one. HeartachesNhangovers Mar 2018 #40

Recreational shooting, some competition, and potential defense of self, family, and home aikoaiko Mar 2018 #42

Hunting, formal and informal competitions, self defense. ManiacJoe Mar 2018 #43

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #45

Two reasons SoutherDem Oct 2018 #46

Pissing off people who think I shouldn't have one The Mouth Oct 2018 #47

Same. If I'm in my own home and its legal, fuck anyone who doesn't like it. Reason enough. n/t Decoy of Fenris Oct 2018 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author spin Oct 2018 #49

They are fun to shoot aeromanKC Oct 2018 #51

Rachael Maddow 4nic8em Oct 2018 #56

Driving 100 mph down the freeway is also fun to do aeromanKC Oct 2018 #58

In my opinion... 4nic8em Oct 2018 #61

YIKES!! aeromanKC Oct 2018 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author dameatball Oct 2018 #53

I've got a little list... Turbineguy Oct 2018 #54

I've got no use for one, and will shortly be moving somewhere they're completely illegal. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #57

As I generally characterize laws... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #64

The mere question is still utterly horrifying and has no place in a democracy. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2018 #66

Control: In short, I'm against it. I mostly agree with what you said. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #79

Actually, I really do have a legitimate use for one. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #60

Your point on remote and wild areas is well taken discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #65

But a handgun is very useful for self defense JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #69

AR-15 makes a great house defense gun. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #73

Assault rifles use smaller ammo and are neither high power nor long range discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #80

FPS muzzle velocity is much, much higher. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #82

Reiterating: my opinion... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #87

Actually, for a number of reasons... ADX Oct 2018 #103

Good point JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #110

I have sufficient armaments at present. Paladin Oct 2018 #75

Posting this today is like posting "What is the best car to drive drunk? Interested to hear." rzemanfl Oct 2018 #76

For shooting. Kali Oct 2018 #77

you posted this 3 hours after the shooting in Pittsburgh??? wtf CreekDog Oct 2018 #83

What is there to defend. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #85

You're saying he could have done it with his bare hands? CreekDog Oct 2018 #86

All your years here and you still wallow in your ignorance regarding firearms. ManiacJoe Oct 2018 #93

Still taking those continuing ed classes in over reacting? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Oct 2018 #89

Kali's only post in the gun group this year was yesterday to say AR-15's are "for shooting" CreekDog Oct 2018 #90

I'm not one of those that goes for the alert button and I'm not alerting this... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2018 #91

i described her post fairly and accurately. i broke no rules or community standards CreekDog Oct 2018 #92

You never change do you? Kali Oct 2018 #94

As I said, your stupid OP was at the top of the Latest page when I opened DU. Kali Oct 2018 #95

I have zero Lithos Oct 2018 #78

It's a launching device for 5.56mm caliber bullets, primarily. krispos42 Nov 2018 #111

It is more than a calibre Lithos Nov 2018 #112

And this is the ammunition performing, not the rifle krispos42 Nov 2018 #116

The AR-15 suits the needs and fantasies of way too many mass killers. Paladin Nov 2018 #113

Taking away the AR-15 doesn't solve the problem krispos42 Nov 2018 #114

Which one? ileus Oct 2018 #81

If I believed you were genuinely objectively interested I would be tempted to answer as I own... Marengo Oct 2018 #99

So I can fight off the Army Marines Navy Airforce underpants Oct 2018 #101

Yes, as so many have said "they're for killing people." That is the point A DAY IN THE LIFE Oct 2018 #102

Quail hunting? gay texan Oct 2018 #104

I should start by confessing... better Oct 2018 #105

Several years ago I owned a small farm and had a few Tennessee Walkers for trail riding. I also dameatball Oct 2018 #107

Why even try to justify ownership of such a weapon? Doodley Oct 2018 #108

Whatever reason I choose. It's none of your business. n/t X_Digger Dec 2018 #117

You're right, it isn't. The rules here say that posts favoring Republicans should be kept to oneself CreekDog Dec 2018 #118

When did you become the Secretary of Need? X_Digger Dec 2018 #119

I thought you started this thread with good intent Alea Dec 2018 #121

I have posted a copy of your second post at Democratic Underground below CreekDog Dec 2018 #122

Oh dear, one of your posts has not aged well CreekDog Dec 2018 #123

Uh oh, you came here to back up X_Digger's post CreekDog Dec 2018 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Alea Dec 2018 #125

liberal, progressive, supporter of social democracy CreekDog Dec 2018 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author Alea Dec 2018 #134

here's another example where X_Digger was joining your argument in a subthread CreekDog Dec 2018 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author Alea Dec 2018 #138

Make up for Their tiny penises Soxfan58 Dec 2018 #126

No dick here and I deployed 3 times to the middle east Alea Dec 2018 #127

I am still thinking of a reason...still nothing comes to mind...nt SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #128

My "used to be friends" would take it out at every gathering Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #129

I don't have a problem with the AR -15 if we have proper licensing and AJT Dec 2018 #132

AR-15 style rifle is the preferred weapon of choice for killing schoolchildren. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #136

From the witness stand: discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2018 #139

That is like saying ManiacJoe Dec 2018 #140

The people using it think so. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #141

Most likely not. ManiacJoe Dec 2018 #142

What a coincidence that so many seek it out. keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #143

For example? ManiacJoe Dec 2018 #144

I posted this on Topix before it was shutdown. Smackdown2019 Dec 2018 #145

Concept of this Smackdown2019 Dec 2018 #146

Never thought we would DashOneBravo Jan 2019 #148

I don't need one Wolf Frankula Feb 2019 #149

By that logic ... Straw Man Feb 2019 #150

That could be true, depending on the situation, gejohnston Feb 2019 #152

To defeat the entire US military....all by myself underpants Feb 2019 #151

You're blessed, yagotme Feb 2019 #155