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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
56. just a few things
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 03:45 PM
Aug 2018

First, if you choose to, remember shot placement is more important than power of the round. Choose and train with what works for you. An example I give, Israeli air marshals were issued .22LR pistols in the 1960s-1970s. During one hijacking, the marshal took out three attackers armed with automatic weapons.

As for capacity or revolver vs magazine fed. Several criminology studies (including, ironically, the CDC under Clinton and Obama) citizens defend themselves 800k to 2m times per year. That tells us that 99.999 percent of the time, the threat is neutralized with zero shots fired. About 20 years ago, Firearms Safety LLC did a study that showed that from 1997-2002 out of the 486 citizens shooting someone in self defense, the average and median shots fired were 2. Only three required a reload, including someone with a .32 revolver against an African lion (I'm guessing it escaped from a zoo.)

Florida is famously a "stand your ground" state.
Most states are, as are most countries (no duty to retreat if you can do safely). If you are in your office, SYG vs DTR isn't relevant. One you are in a building (castle doctrine), and two, it sounds like you can't safety retreat.

If you carry, don't tell anyone anything. For all you know, you might be the only one who isn't.
seems like a bad idea to have a gun unless you have a lot of training bobbieinok Jul 2018 #1
Also a bad idea not to have a gun if someone comes through the door with a gun and a grudge. hay rick Jul 2018 #4
You'll get no flak from me Downtown Hound Jul 2018 #2
One of my basic questions. hay rick Jul 2018 #6
Glock .45 or .40 cal Downtown Hound Jul 2018 #18
Save your money leanforward Jul 2018 #3
Longtime Gun Guy here .. PBC_Democrat Jul 2018 #5
Longtime gun girl here Runningdawg Jul 2018 #27
Truth. All of it. The Mouth Jul 2018 #30
Like you, I prefer a small .38 revolver. ... spin Oct 2018 #61
Don't bother unless you are prepared to know how to use proficiently... Thomas Hurt Jul 2018 #7
In 2016 we had a Security Guard during office hours. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #8
Camera is a good idea. hay rick Jul 2018 #10
I wouldn't volunteer. WhiteTara Jul 2018 #9
It's a difficult situation. hay rick Jul 2018 #11
Hardening the office is a much better idea Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #12
I agree. Securing the office is a better idea than carrying a gun. FuzzyRabbit Jul 2018 #15
Have the landlord install a digital lock. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #16
Preparing for a shooter. FuzzyRabbit Jul 2018 #13
Thank you, FuzzyRabbit. This is informative. The Wielding Truth Aug 2018 #54
Since you have never shot a gun, you probably can't accurately shoot. StTimofEdenRoc Jul 2018 #14
I have shot guns, I just haven't owned one. hay rick Jul 2018 #17
Knives are very deadly. Straw Man Jul 2018 #42
First question is who is in charge of the office? sarisataka Jul 2018 #19
That's some seriously good advice discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2018 #23
Thanks for the thoughtful comments. hay rick Jul 2018 #24
You are safer without one. Scruffy1 Jul 2018 #20
Would your office allow you rwheeler31 Jul 2018 #21
If you need a gun, hire a professional Sedona Jul 2018 #22
Yes, a highly trained armed guard. oneshooter Jul 2018 #25
You get what you pay for Sedona Jul 2018 #32
Why not train themselves to a higher standard? It can (and ought to if one is carrying, imo) be done friendly_iconoclast Jul 2018 #46
Expensive oneshooter Jul 2018 #47
rick, first posted in RKBA? saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #26
I posted here because I am seeking input from people who are knowledgeable about guns. hay rick Jul 2018 #34
I would not want to volunteer with someone with a gun. Sorry, I vote No - don't do it. JDC Jul 2018 #28
I am sure you can get training get the red out Jul 2018 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author The Mouth Jul 2018 #31
Glock 19 or small six shooter and a biometric pistol safe Alea Jul 2018 #33
Thank you for your advice. hay rick Jul 2018 #35
Before you thank me Alea Jul 2018 #36
A pariah on DU? hay rick Jul 2018 #37
You will always be welcome here Alea Jul 2018 #38
OMG, I'm doomed. hay rick Jul 2018 #39
my $0.02 marshmallow_man Jul 2018 #40
For post #9 in your history here True Dough Aug 2018 #60
Very bad idea. I've been around firearms my entire life. I do not want you to ... marble falls Jul 2018 #41
good point marshmallow_man Jul 2018 #43
The Myth busters may help you make a decision. fleabiscuit Jul 2018 #44
There are about a million ways a scenario could play out at your office krispos42 Jul 2018 #45
May I recommend a CZ PCR. ileus Jul 2018 #48
I read sweetapogee Jul 2018 #49
Don't do it. SQUEE Aug 2018 #50
You would need MONTHS to years of training to be ready for any of the encounters you are worried abo gejohnston Aug 2018 #55
I assume the poster will not being doing 8 hour days SQUEE Aug 2018 #58
it doesn't take that much gejohnston Aug 2018 #59
hay rick, NO saidsimplesimon Aug 2018 #51
Get one and a permit if you must. Do not ever tell anyone you have the permit or are brewens Aug 2018 #52
I would try going to your local police station Eko Aug 2018 #53
just a few things gejohnston Aug 2018 #56
.38 Wheel gun bottomofthehill Aug 2018 #57
Compact auto gunsmoker Jan 2019 #66
Get the training first before carrying a gun. You don't have enough time for this election year. Kaleva Oct 2018 #62
Thanks. I agree. hay rick Oct 2018 #64
I think you have made a wise choice. Kaleva Oct 2018 #65
I spent months doing research before making a purchase. Kaleva Oct 2018 #63
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