Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: REINSTATE THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN! [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,578 posts)60. Which features are dangerous?
Common attributes used in legislative definitions of assault weapons include:
Semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine
Folding or telescoping (collapsible) stock, which reduces the overall length of the firearm
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
Bayonet lug, which allows the mounting of a bayonet
Threaded barrel, which can accept devices such as a flash suppressor, Suppressor, compensator or muzzle brake or a grenade launcher
Barrel shroud, which prevents burning of shooter's arm or hand as a safety device.
Semi-automatic firearm capable of accepting a detachable magazine
Folding or telescoping (collapsible) stock, which reduces the overall length of the firearm
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon
Bayonet lug, which allows the mounting of a bayonet
Threaded barrel, which can accept devices such as a flash suppressor, Suppressor, compensator or muzzle brake or a grenade launcher
Barrel shroud, which prevents burning of shooter's arm or hand as a safety device.
I'd estimate half of all firearms sold today accept a detachable magazine.
I've not heard of anyone being killed with an adjustable stock. I can't imagine how a fixed stock could mitigate that problem if it exists.
A pistol grip provides a firmer and more stable hold on rifle which I see as improving the general safety.
I've not heard or read about a rash of civilian killings using fixed bayonets either.
The news in my area has very silent on drive-by grenadings but perhaps you have a few links to stories in other areas.
A barrel shroud is also a safety device.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
189 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Nothing I said is wrong. The fact is, mass shootings doubled after the ban expired.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#19
You do not and cannot dispute that mass shootings doubled after the expiration of the AWB.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#24
I hope your granddaughters remain safe and have great experiences in their schools
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2018
#34
It can't be discussed rationally,there's no excuse for not reinstating the AWB. Body counts rising
mountain grammy
Feb 2018
#109
The onus would be on the prosecutors, and as noted there's no way to make it stick...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#166
Yeah, about that: "Many Circumventing Colorado High-Capacity Magazine Ban"
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#164
The AR-10 is used on big game. The AR-15 is too small, and illegal in most states for use against
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#91
re: " I think most people dont know there WAS AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2018
#25
Gore got more votes than Bush in Florida, SCOTUS just didn't let them count all of Gore votes.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#32
I gave you facts. You chose to ignore them. I'm not going to play that game. Bye.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#63
Nope. The whole package. You'll have to find someone else to be your straw man, Straw Man. nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#67
No, you need to stop ignoring words. What part of "Not only that..." do you not understand?
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#74
Actually, choosing not to play your diversion game is the opposite of evasive. nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#80
That the cosmetic features of the AR-15 are exactly what sells them to murderous nuts.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#82
You have to reach back all the way to 2011 for a Norway's one mass shooting.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#125
No, I didn't miss the point. All those countries have the same societal problems we do.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#134
What about the laws that have been on the books for centuries making murder illegal?
MichMan
Feb 2018
#106
"GOP (NRA) talking point(s)" are the Left version of "fake news": thought-terminating cliches
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#133
You do not want an AWB, so spare me your concerns about what would "help." nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#88
"NRA talking points" is a Trumpian "fake news" accusation designed to deflect and avoid.
Straw Man
Feb 2018
#122
No, NRA talking points are how you avoid addressing the fact that ARs are marketed to nuts. nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#123
Some of the features you are referring to make the rifle much safer to use.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#94
Bump stocks and easily acquired auto sears make your assertions pure sophistry.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#129
Pious fraud-"easily acquired auto sears" no longer exist. The Feds cracked down on them in 1986
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#131
I, too have no problem with banning bump stocks. A ban would be Constitutionally sound, as...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#135
Indeed, no mention was made of diming out the guy. That means one of four things:
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#142
"I knew a gun nut who got one for his AR." You helped enable a felony, *if* you didn't call the ATF
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#139
No. It was 1989, he had a dealer's license and said it was legal for him to have it.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#156
Auto Sears have been regulated as a Machine Gun and registered since 1934.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#157
After that date, they are retroactively Machine Guns. Any rifle that had one installed is also retro
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#160
You left out the part where ARs *that they would fit into* were regulated at the same time...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#161
This is the kind of catastrophic failure an AR can experience if you try to install an auto sear
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#158
Wow, he's lucky he wasn't arrested, or at the least the rifle confiscated.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#181
You were conned, Sunny- and that post deserves a fisking. So here it is:
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#163
You don't get to characterize it as 'jumping on' when the thread literally advertises itself in
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#174
By the way, the 7th Circuit Court invalidated the BATFE's grandfathering of pre1981
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#177
I stand corrected, SunSeeker-however, everything else I said still applies
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#170
Bump stocks are legal, and available. Auto sears are tightly controlled, expensive, and not availabl
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#152
Start with easy stuff like sticks, rocks, and boards with nails through them
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#140