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In reply to the discussion: REINSTATE THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN! [View all]Straw Man
(6,774 posts)57. Let's try this again.
Yes the ammo may be the same, but do hunters need to shoot 160 rounds in 6 minutes to take down an elk? just go out in the forest and blast away? Kind of negates the sport side of the sport, wouldn't you agree? and if that's the weapon of choice, why?
Hunter using ARs don't "shoot 160 rounds in 6 minutes." Just because the rifle CAN do that doesn't mean the operator HAS TO do that. After the first shot, the game is spooked and runs away anyway. Hunters using ARs can use smaller magazines and fire at the same rate as hunters with manual-action rifles. They use the AR because it's what they have and what they are familiar with.
This subthread started with you saying that ARs aren't used for target shooting or hunting. That is simply not true.
Don't use a firearm to frighten animals away. It's dangerous and irresponsible. Don't point a gun at anything that you're not willing to destroy. That's a fundamental gun safety rule.
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Nothing I said is wrong. The fact is, mass shootings doubled after the ban expired.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#19
You do not and cannot dispute that mass shootings doubled after the expiration of the AWB.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#24
I hope your granddaughters remain safe and have great experiences in their schools
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2018
#34
It can't be discussed rationally,there's no excuse for not reinstating the AWB. Body counts rising
mountain grammy
Feb 2018
#109
The onus would be on the prosecutors, and as noted there's no way to make it stick...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#166
Yeah, about that: "Many Circumventing Colorado High-Capacity Magazine Ban"
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#164
The AR-10 is used on big game. The AR-15 is too small, and illegal in most states for use against
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#91
re: " I think most people dont know there WAS AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Feb 2018
#25
Gore got more votes than Bush in Florida, SCOTUS just didn't let them count all of Gore votes.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#32
I gave you facts. You chose to ignore them. I'm not going to play that game. Bye.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#63
Nope. The whole package. You'll have to find someone else to be your straw man, Straw Man. nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#67
No, you need to stop ignoring words. What part of "Not only that..." do you not understand?
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#74
Actually, choosing not to play your diversion game is the opposite of evasive. nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#80
That the cosmetic features of the AR-15 are exactly what sells them to murderous nuts.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#82
You have to reach back all the way to 2011 for a Norway's one mass shooting.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#125
No, I didn't miss the point. All those countries have the same societal problems we do.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#134
What about the laws that have been on the books for centuries making murder illegal?
MichMan
Feb 2018
#106
"GOP (NRA) talking point(s)" are the Left version of "fake news": thought-terminating cliches
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#133
You do not want an AWB, so spare me your concerns about what would "help." nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#88
"NRA talking points" is a Trumpian "fake news" accusation designed to deflect and avoid.
Straw Man
Feb 2018
#122
No, NRA talking points are how you avoid addressing the fact that ARs are marketed to nuts. nt
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#123
Some of the features you are referring to make the rifle much safer to use.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#94
Bump stocks and easily acquired auto sears make your assertions pure sophistry.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#129
Pious fraud-"easily acquired auto sears" no longer exist. The Feds cracked down on them in 1986
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#131
I, too have no problem with banning bump stocks. A ban would be Constitutionally sound, as...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#135
Indeed, no mention was made of diming out the guy. That means one of four things:
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#142
"I knew a gun nut who got one for his AR." You helped enable a felony, *if* you didn't call the ATF
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#139
No. It was 1989, he had a dealer's license and said it was legal for him to have it.
SunSeeker
Feb 2018
#156
Auto Sears have been regulated as a Machine Gun and registered since 1934.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#157
After that date, they are retroactively Machine Guns. Any rifle that had one installed is also retro
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#160
You left out the part where ARs *that they would fit into* were regulated at the same time...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#161
This is the kind of catastrophic failure an AR can experience if you try to install an auto sear
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#158
Wow, he's lucky he wasn't arrested, or at the least the rifle confiscated.
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#181
You were conned, Sunny- and that post deserves a fisking. So here it is:
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#163
You don't get to characterize it as 'jumping on' when the thread literally advertises itself in
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#174
By the way, the 7th Circuit Court invalidated the BATFE's grandfathering of pre1981
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#177
I stand corrected, SunSeeker-however, everything else I said still applies
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#170
Bump stocks are legal, and available. Auto sears are tightly controlled, expensive, and not availabl
AtheistCrusader
Feb 2018
#152
Start with easy stuff like sticks, rocks, and boards with nails through them
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2018
#140