Gun Control & RKBA

Straw Man

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37. Zero? Guess again.

Tue Dec 19, 2017, 01:31 AM

Dec 2017

Using the FBI's definition of mass murder as four or more killings in a single event, there have been eight mass murders in Australia in the 20 years since the legislation was enacted. Those with the highest death tolls have been arson attacks.

In the 20 years prior to the legislation, there were 12 mass murder events, most of them shootings. Only one of them, the Port Arthur massacre, had a death toll higher than any of the subsequent arson attacks.

Among the "military" weapons the Australians banned was the humble pump shotgun. Any attempt at a similar ban in this country would be the best gift the Republican Party has ever been handed.

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Father of 6-year-old Sandy Hook victim hopes to bring unique lawsuit against AR-15 makers [View all] TupperHappy Dec 2017 OP

Negligent entrustment mountain grammy Dec 2017 #1

This suit isn't going anywhere nt COLGATE4 Dec 2017 #2

FTA: MichMary Dec 2017 #3

Fatal flaw in this suit sarisataka Dec 2017 #4

Cant think of Sandy Hook without it Ferrets are Cool Dec 2017 #5

The premise has merit. flamin lib Dec 2017 #6

Only if one ignores the fact that the actual purchaser wasn't a member of that demographic friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #7

I googled "AR 15 ads" too Alea Dec 2017 #8

There are more scantily clad women in your example flamin lib Dec 2017 #9

Not seeing the "Vast Majority" asserted. Now you're changing your own goal post. Alea Dec 2017 #10

Vast majority are MILITARY. flamin lib Dec 2017 #11

Not seeing "Vast marority are Military" Alea Dec 2017 #12

None so blind and so not worth my time. Nt flamin lib Dec 2017 #13

I fully agree Alea Dec 2017 #14

Got caught again, eh? Marengo Dec 2017 #23

I'm getting your drift discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2017 #15

Tactical themes abound krispos42 Dec 2017 #16

Is this the velocity of an unladen sparrow flamin lib Dec 2017 #17

*snort* oops, I made a booboo. It was to your comment #6. krispos42 Dec 2017 #18

Bears no relevance to either. Nt flamin lib Dec 2017 #19

I disagree krispos42 Dec 2017 #20

Nice apology for marketing a made-for-war weapon to the masses, but flamin lib Dec 2017 #21

You mean, typical advertising techniques? krispos42 Dec 2017 #22

You're far more polite than I would be- the gun control bitter-enders seem determined... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #25

Do as Australia did...buy back the military grade weapons and toss them on a bonfire. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #27

All of the "military grade" weapons in civilian hands are registered to the current civilian owners oneshooter Dec 2017 #29

The perpetual question is "how do you define 'military grade'?" krispos42 Dec 2017 #30

Exactly the type of WMD's Australia threw in the Barbi! Zero mass murders since. Fred Sanders Dec 2017 #31

I've no doubt you do a fine job of convincing those who already agree with you... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #36

Zero? Guess again. Straw Man Dec 2017 #37

Wrong again. Straw Man Dec 2017 #38

"Technical details matter." Not to gun control advocates- theirs is a faith-based movement friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #42

I don't think Australia threw any pump-action rifles on the barbie krispos42 Dec 2017 #44

just so you understand... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2017 #45

At minimum, assault spoons should be banned. krispos42 Dec 2017 #47

Don't you think that all serving spoons should be round? discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2017 #48

Try eating with one of the spoons from a WW1/WW2 mess kit. yagotme Dec 2017 #49

Been there; done that; got the waistline. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2017 #50

"NRA talking points" is the antigun version of "fake news": partisan cant and pietism... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #24

How are these semi-auto rifles ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #28

Originally marketed to the navy under the nomenclature flamin lib Dec 2017 #32

Weren't those fully automatic? Nt hack89 Dec 2017 #33

Indeed they were. We were not supposed to notice the conflation of the two sorts of firearms. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #35

Three mistakes in two sentences. 1) It was the Air Force, not the Navy friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #34

He is an endless source of alternative firearm facts... Marengo Dec 2017 #39

Kindly note just who it was that wrote the following: friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #43

You missed another one, fi: yagotme Dec 2017 #40

Ah, yes- didn't catch that one. Thanks friendly_iconoclast Dec 2017 #41

Yes, a modern sporting rifle if the "sport" is killing humans. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #26

The AR platform is increasing in popularity for hunting. Ive used an AR-10 and... Marengo Dec 2017 #46

IMO, it won't be lawsuits that change the accountability of gun owners. no_hypocrisy Dec 2017 #51

Mandatory gun insurance ... Straw Man Dec 2017 #52

You can't mandate liability insurance ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #53

Liability insurance doesn't cover intentional criminal acts. X_Digger Jan 2018 #54

The insurance load... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2018 #55