Gun Control & RKBA

discntnt_irny_srcsm

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37. re: "Wouldn't it make sense to adapt a definition that addresses your main complaint...

Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:04 PM

Oct 2017

...about how the term is used?"

With terminology I would prefer in all case that the term be precise and meaningful. Your definition is very precise. I just don't see it as being useful. The only way I can see the term "assault weapon" as useful is if it is defined as follows: A weapon used in an assault.

An assault rifle is a select fire rifle of most any caliber. M-16, AK-47...
A heavy machine gun is a generally a crew served weapon operable in full-auto which was designed to have relatively interchangeable barrels. M-2...
An SMG is a rifle sized arm operating in full-auto that takes pistol sized round. M1928A1
I'm a bit sketchy on some aspects of this but from memory that's what I get. I don't see a use in having semi-auto rifles grouped as follows:
Rim fire and non-rim fire with non-rim fire divided between "assault weapons" and non-"assault weapons".

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A different way of defining what an assault weapon is [View all] Kaleva Oct 2017 OP

any loaded gun aimed at another human being is an assault weapon nt msongs Oct 2017 #1

Correct. Straw Man Oct 2017 #5

You win the internet Alea Oct 2017 #6

Thank you. Straw Man Oct 2017 #7

This could be any of my counter assault weapons. ileus Oct 2017 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #3

Simpler: Any semiauto centerfire rifle or brace-equipped-pistol capable of accepting detachable mags JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #4

Does this mean AR and AK pistols without braces would not be AWs? aikoaiko Oct 2017 #8

I suppose. Can't win 'em all. nt JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #9

What about... Always Right Oct 2017 #11

Same way Machine Guns can be Short barreled rifles without dual registration. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #12

So a SBR can have a bump stock? Always Right Oct 2017 #14

LOL, I don't think bump stocks are going to be around much longer. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #15

Over inclusive and under inclusive at the same time Always Right Oct 2017 #20

My definition (or post content) suggests banning nothing. It's just a definition. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #21

The NFA registry has its own issues Always Right Oct 2017 #22

New NFA process is just fine. People are just impatient. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #23

Eforms never worked right Always Right Oct 2017 #24

Simplicity is good, but... Adrahil Nov 2017 #45

Maybe not so simple. oneshooter Nov 2017 #47

Maybe not so simple. oneshooter Nov 2017 #48

Your definition of AW is too broad and at the same time over inclusive Always Right Oct 2017 #10

There's no point in reinventing the wheel in an effort to get around this Kaleva Oct 2017 #13

Pressure, in answer to your statement: yagotme Oct 2017 #16

Thanks for the info! Kaleva Oct 2017 #17

Welcome! n/t yagotme Oct 2017 #29

I would like to read your thoughts on how to avoid being an AW. Kaleva Oct 2017 #18

Not sure anyone can define semi-auto AW Always Right Oct 2017 #19

That maxim 50 is dumb as hell JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #25

You said in an earlier post that it was easy to get around what I proposed Kaleva Oct 2017 #26

I have a few basic questions discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2017 #27

Some answers Kaleva Oct 2017 #28

And replies discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2017 #30

Most every term in relation to guns is well understood except for assault weapons Kaleva Oct 2017 #31

Have you considered why that term is misunderstood and ill-defined? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2017 #33

Semi-automatics have been around for decades. Kaleva Oct 2017 #34

Can you conceive of the color red? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2017 #35

Your arguing in circles isn't going to be effective on me. Kaleva Oct 2017 #36

re: "Wouldn't it make sense to adapt a definition that addresses your main complaint... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2017 #37

The term assault weapon is going to stay around. It's not going away. Kaleva Oct 2017 #38

I can really appreciate having a well defined term discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2017 #39

My proposed definition isn't going to be adopted by anyone Kaleva Oct 2017 #40

For some, it would be any weapon not The Mouth Oct 2017 #32

What is the point of another artificial definition? ManiacJoe Nov 2017 #41

The term "assault weapon" is in very common use. Kaleva Nov 2017 #42

And whatever made-up definition used back then ManiacJoe Nov 2017 #46

Any semi-automatic firearm with a removable magazine. Simple, short, easy. flamin lib Nov 2017 #43

"Simple, short, easy." And impossible. But by all means try for your 'Prohibition 3.0' friendly_iconoclast Nov 2017 #44