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SecularMotion

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16. Civil Liberties Body ACLU Will No Longer Defend Gun-Carrying Protest Groups
Sun Aug 20, 2017, 10:30 AM
Aug 2017
Since its founding during a period of anti-communist paranoia in 1920, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has served as a reliable line of defense for those who find their constitutional freedoms under threat.

Sometimes, that means fighting for liberal causes: ACLU lawyers were involved in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, the two supreme court victories that underpinned women’s right to abortions in modern America. ANd the ACLU was the only major U.S. organization to speak out against the internment of 110,000 Japanese Americans following the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.

But sometimes, the group has decided to defend people that its liberal supporters find less palatable. In a 1934 pamphlet, entitled Shall We Defend Free Speech for Nazis in America? the group defended its choice to stand up for German-American Nazis who wanted to hold meetings in the U.S. “Is it not clear that free speech as a practical tactic, not only as an abstract principle, demands the defense of all who are attacked in order to obtain the rights of any ?” its justification read.

In modern America, the ACLU finds itself in a similar bind. With far-right groups like neo-Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan more visible, and white nationalists grouping under its self-defined banner of the "alt-right," it must decide whether it will defend the rights of such groups to demonstrate and spread their often hateful views.

http://www.newsweek.com/free-speech-hate-speech-aclu-civil-liberties-donald-trump-652050
Ban the Open Carry of Firearms [View all] SecularMotion Aug 2017 OP
But what about Antonin Scalia and his "discovery" of what he called "original intent"? guillaumeb Aug 2017 #1
Scalia said you can ban open carry hack89 Aug 2017 #8
Ban them all. bullimiami Aug 2017 #2
We've Been Told sarisataka Aug 2017 #4
More blowback from your side's culture war krispos42 Aug 2017 #3
"Gun Control" is the most effective form of firearm proliferation known to this country. n/t Decoy of Fenris Aug 2017 #5
Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #6
historical diffs between open & concealed carry jimmy the one Aug 2017 #7
I'm not being snarky Lokilooney Aug 2017 #9
heartbroken jimmy the one Aug 2017 #10
Translation Lokilooney Aug 2017 #12
You have no idea how much this pains me.. tortoise1956 Oct 2017 #33
Technically OC should discourage harassment and intimidation. ileus Aug 2017 #11
It wasn't just white supremacists and nazis who were armed at Charlottesville. EL34x4 Aug 2017 #13
Sounds like something Trump would say SecularMotion Aug 2017 #14
And if he said it, he would be correct. EL34x4 Aug 2017 #15
Civil Liberties Body ACLU Will No Longer Defend Gun-Carrying Protest Groups SecularMotion Aug 2017 #16
Do you support denying a Constitutional right based on being on a government list? The ACLU doesn't: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2017 #18
Their argument against using the no-fly watchlist is that the system is broken. SecularMotion Aug 2017 #20
What about states already using those lists to deny gun permits? New Jersey does: friendly_iconoclast Aug 2017 #21
I agree with the position of the ACLU SecularMotion Aug 2017 #22
I agree with it as well- also, that article is as clear as mud friendly_iconoclast Aug 2017 #23
If the ACLU had defended the 2nd amendment, the NRA would not be the political power it now is. Hangingon Aug 2017 #28
Sometimes folks that oppose carrying... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #17
These folks don't oppose carrying. They're proudly pro-gun and progressive. EL34x4 Aug 2017 #25
Rednecks! Obviously liberals! pablo_marmol Aug 2017 #19
I'll see your Blair Mountain and raise you a... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #24
! pablo_marmol Aug 2017 #27
To all my "retrumplican before country" brethren Tortue Aug 2017 #26
if you're addressing "retrumplican before country" brethren... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2017 #29
I would stay away from any event where people were going to open carry Kaleva Sep 2017 #30
I have no problem with open carry. ManiacJoe Sep 2017 #31
I agree AR-15s on chest rigs are a bit more than open carry. mackdaddy Oct 2017 #32
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