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In reply to the discussion: What did the Founders mean... [View all]discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,578 posts)84. Many folks are "in love" with the idea that...
...a new law, stricter law, better law... is the answer to mostly all problems facing society. The problem there comes from the fact that some of those folks are law makers and law makers have a bit more to say about making laws than most of us. Unfortunately, the old saying, 'when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail' plays a big role in legislation.
I would hazard a guess that many laws, which were written and passed with the best intentions, have taken unintended turns and have actually caused problems for the people.
Many folks want to end around any state government and have the feds make it law from sea to shining sea.
Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. - Daniel Webster
Sound like any orange person you may have heard of?
"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them." - (Story, Joseph. Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States. 3 vols. Boston, 1833.) (Joseph Story (September 18, 1779 September 10, 1845) was an American lawyer and jurist who served on the Supreme Court of the United States from 1811 to 1845.)
What would that fellow, Story, know about the law? Why should his opinion on the Constitution be worth anything more than that of a bloke in the pub on the next stool? Is there any reason to trust the opinion of someone who was alive when the BoR was written and passed?Edit history
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So the French Navy was just there for show? Funny, I could've sworn it was them who ensured victory.
malchickiwick
Jun 2017
#4
US history is rife with examples of our leaders' mistakes and even crimes
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jun 2017
#10
This reply doesn't say anything about your thoughts on the subject...
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jun 2017
#18
Did you also note that 'everyone' else who isn't in the NG, is also a member of the militia?
jmg257
Jun 2017
#28
Meh- a prolix, badly formatted argumentum ad populum *and* sheer Colonism:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2017
#93
The government "...derives its just powers from the consent of the governed..." n/t
discntnt_irny_srcsm
Jun 2017
#11
History is filled with examples of people oppressed by Leaders who abuse their power
MedusaX
Jun 2017
#7
I can't say it better than most of the posters above have already said, but will add
Alea
Jun 2017
#8
Generally, Hamilton is good on this, yet his notion of a select militia didn't come about for
jmg257
Jun 2017
#9
Not really arguing anything, Jim - pointing out it is quite easy to know what the founders meant
jmg257
Jul 2017
#40
You have the right to express your opinion using any method available before 1792
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2017
#41
If that's true, then why aren't single shot firearms recommended over "self loading" models...
Marengo
Jul 2017
#45
"...(S)omething we do not need in modern society" Would that be the royal 'we', or...
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2017
#46
A) GC&RKBA is not an 'amen chorus', and B) none of that bears upon what I posted
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2017
#58
Your opinion is welcome, however it is nonsensical and there is no obligation for anyone to accept..
Marengo
Jul 2017
#55
"Revolvers are for people who display poor marksmanship or who intend to kill multiple times."
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2017
#47
Should the government prevent the ownership of word processing software? It postdates 1793...
Marengo
Jul 2017
#57
So, you're ok with me having a 20 shot semi-auto .68 caliber rifle then?
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2017
#95
Perfect! And this is yet another point that restriction supporters will never grasp.
pablo_marmol
Aug 2017
#90