Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: What did the Founders mean... [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)The suicide rate by firearm would drop, but not the suicide rate. If those 100 gun deaths become 100 rope deaths, I fail to see the improvement, unless it is about guns per se and not saving lives. The murder rate won't drop either. In the US, it is mostly criminals killing each other in a black market trade. Frankly, that is my honest impression of gun control activists. They don't actually care about the violence or deaths, just the guns.
Back to injuries. Most of these injuries are criminals, usually trading in black market items from other countries, shooting each other. Those are lumped together with citizens and police defending themselves.
Also, not the murder rates. Name one country that has a murder rate higher than ours that doesn't also have very restrictive gun laws. You will find some of them are more restrictive than the UK. Also, you're assuming that there is a connection or cause and effect is a logical fallacy, post hoc ergo propter hoc. That is typical of gun control arguments, just a collection of logical fallacies, questionable statistics, and outright bullshit.
What your post says is that your goal isn't so much about saving lives but making a better world, but don't like the means used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/12/17/worst-countries-for-firearms-related-deaths/#5942f5606e30
And no, it isn't cherry picking. Cherry picking is using a few countries or localities that support your position while ignoring the rest.