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jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
38. no cigar
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 11:30 AM
Apr 2017

straw man: The rule for demonstrative pronouns like "this" is the same as the rule for all pronouns: when in doubt, they refer to the closest antecedent, which in this case is "any other semi-automatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine." Furthermore, "the AR-15" is a specific rifle, not a "kind of rifle." "Semi-automatic rifle that accepts ... etc." is a "kind of rifle."

The subject of the sentence was 'The AR-15' - not the semi automatic rifle which was part of the predicate:

"The AR-15 is functionally no different from any other semi-automatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine. There are literally 10s of millions of this kind of rifle, owned by, again, literally 10s of millions of law-abiding citizens,.."

It is sequitur to presume the following sentence referred back to the subject of the first sentence, rather than the semi-auto clause.
I repeat, his wording was sloppy & ambiguous, and most people would agree with my interpretation, not yours.

Where do these victims find such incompetent lawyers?!?!?! ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #1
I think that your new friends Dunning and Kruger might be their lawyers n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #2
ar15 white man's toy jimmy the one Mar 2017 #3
How often are AR15s converted to full auto? How many illegally converted AR15s have been seized... Marengo Mar 2017 #4
Probably a few but you'd have ask in France or Australia discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #5
"can" and "can easily" are two very different things. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #6
Anyone who can convert an AR to full auto... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #7
Exactly. But those who get their gun knowledge from Hollywood ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #8
if anyone can do it wincest Mar 2017 #15
I've no doubt whatsoever that you actually believe what you wrote there. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #9
iconic amnesia jimmy the one Mar 2017 #12
You're are correct, I *have* seen this bullshit before. Thanks for the link to previous broadcasting friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #18
That is not what I claimed. TupperHappy Mar 2017 #10
ar & ak conversions which I do not condone or endorse in any way jimmy the one Mar 2017 #11
It is illegal to convert any semi auto firearm into full auto. The law is there. yagotme Mar 2017 #13
Is it "illegaler"? Beats me. Paladin Mar 2017 #14
Sorry. yagotme Mar 2017 #17
I'm not sure about "illegaler" but it might get you double secret probation. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #53
Used to be Correctional Officer. yagotme Apr 2017 #54
Correction. Straw Man Mar 2017 #29
no cigar jimmy the one Apr 2017 #38
I don't smoke cigars. Straw Man Apr 2017 #39
you make my case re AR15 jimmy the one Apr 2017 #42
Wrong again, on several counts. Straw Man Apr 2017 #46
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #47
Amazed this is still being debated, but let me interject something. TupperHappy Apr 2017 #48
Bravo for the hide inspiring response discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #49
And I thought my response was pretty mild ... Straw Man Apr 2017 #50
neither did I discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2017 #51
"ar15 white man's toy" wincest Mar 2017 #16
proves nothing jimmy the one Mar 2017 #19
"proves nothing" yagotme Mar 2017 #21
gun ownership demographics melm00se Apr 2017 #40
Insufficient data. yagotme Apr 2017 #41
Goodness Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #20
to agree, or disagree, with oxymoronic hyperbole jimmy the one Mar 2017 #25
If there weren't a correction, it wouldn't be you discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #26
As I suspected you had nothing to back up your assertion. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #32
A 500 dollar rifle makes you rich....LOL....now that's RICH. ileus Mar 2017 #23
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #35
do not employ these illegal conversion kits jimmy the one Apr 2017 #43
So, you know such a hypothetical kit would be instant felony to possess and they aren't readily avai AtheistCrusader Apr 2017 #44
file your taxes soon, but don't file your AR jimmy the one Apr 2017 #45
You're right of course about the lawyers. pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #22
The whole "negligent entrustment" idea... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #24
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welcome to DU gopiscrap Mar 2017 #28
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You're welcome gopiscrap Mar 2017 #31
I didn't see the post you responded to, its been removed. TupperHappy Mar 2017 #33
of course it was marketed to civilians. It's a civilian rifle. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #34
is your avatar wincest Mar 2017 #36
Good catch, yes it is. AtheistCrusader Mar 2017 #37
It will cost the families dearly but the precedence benefit will prove useful... Baconator Apr 2017 #52
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