Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Sandy Hook families take gun case to state Supreme Court [View all]jimmy the one
(2,717 posts)tupper happy: That is not what I claimed. You quoted me above yet obviously did not read it.
Blame yourself in good part for being unclear & ambiguous, this is what you wrote: "The AR-15 is functionally no different from any other semi-automatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine. There are literally 10s of millions of this kind of rifle, owned by, again, literally 10s of millions of law-abiding citizens,.."
To phrase it properly so as to avoid confusion, you should have written 'there are literally 10s of millions of semi auto rifles', since 'this kind of rifle' suggests you are speaking of the AR15. It's your post, you clarified it as your prerogative, but don't blame me for your sloppy wording.
tupper: Others have questioned your blithe assertion on the numbers of AR-15s that have been converted to full auto.
I made no assertion, blithe or not, as to how many ar15s have been converted to full auto. I simply wrote that the AR15 & the AK47 could be converted to full auto, using either common tools or a conversion kit. That is a trait which conventional rifles do not possess, to best of my knowledge.
jimmy the one, sept 11, 2015: I have not contended ar15s or aks were converted back en masse, I only said that they could be, and I have also posted that 98%+ of assault rifle owners would not want to do that. Indeed it would utterly foolish for a 'normal' criminal to convert to full auto, would be ridiculous. Only a large scale mass shooter would want to..... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=175857
What is an ARFA Kit The ARFA Kit contains all of the materials necessary to make the parts that will convert a Bushmaster AR-15 (or other AR-15 with similar specs) from semi-auto to full-auto.
The ARFA Kit includes the following:
Completed Bolt Carrier Group Counter Weight and detailed instructions for installing the completed part.
Mostly completed material necessary to make a Trigger Control Group Travel Reducer and ... The instructions include a diagram and layout that can be used to determine when the part has been formed correctly. .. (Because the part is not completed until you make the final bend in the metal, using a pair of pliers, the kit, as-sold, is legal to own.) To make the completed part, you will need a pair of pliers. As an option for those who are concerned that the ARFA Kit may not be legal in their jurisdiction, but would still like to know how it works, we offer a RAW Materials Kit.
http://www.arfakit.com/ --- it's become a dead link, once active: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=153566
Just googled this, dunno how valid: Convert a stock AR-15 to full auto and back again in seconds. The kit is legal to own and very simple to use. https://wn.com/legal_arfa_full_auto_conversion_kit
I checked these links, appear still up: link: From what I understand you could convert practically any AK into it's full auto configuration with about $20 in parts and an hour or two. Highly illegal of course and I would absolutely never condone it
.... Full automatic and select fire on the AR15/M16. The M16 series ... There are several ways to legally and illegally convert a semi-auto AR15 to full auto. The legal ... https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=convert+ar15+to+full+automatic
... https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=convert+ak+47+to+full+auto
... http://www.savvysurvivor.com/full_auto_and_autoburst_modifica.htm
.. https://www.hackcanada.com/ice3/misc/ak47mod.txt
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