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Gun Control & RKBA

yagotme

(3,819 posts)

38. Error in your reasoning:

Reply to jimmy the one (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:38 PM

Jan 2017

"The bill of rights was both a restriction on congress & a guarantee of individual rights (in 2nA case, the right to belong to a well regulated militia, right as a duty): "

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms."

I don't see what you typed in the second line there. No "The right to belong to a militia" as far a I can see...

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How is Meatloaf's 'Id Do Anything for Love' like the 2nd Amendment? [View all] HAB911 Jan 2017 OP

Wrong discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2017 #1

um.. mac56 Jan 2017 #6

At the time of ratification sarisataka Jan 2017 #9

As my learned associate sarisataka has explained... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2017 #17

The Democratic party says the 2A supports an individual right to keep and bear arms. hack89 Jan 2017 #2

There is no basis to the popular myth needledriver Jan 2017 #3

You are right...the 2nd did NOT give the people the right to bear arms. jmg257 Jan 2017 #4

+1 Doug.Goodall Jan 2017 #13

errors in your reasoning jimmy the one Jan 2017 #29

Error in your reasoning: yagotme Jan 2017 #38

Never understood why sarisataka Jan 2017 #5

I believe the placement of the comma's yagotme Jan 2017 #7

+1 Doug.Goodall Jan 2017 #14

You overly complicated it in your "translation"... jmg257 Jan 2017 #8

Why does the word "arms" safeinOhio Jan 2017 #10

It doesn't refer only to firearms sarisataka Jan 2017 #11

taking rawle out of context jimmy the one Jan 2017 #30

Thank you for your support sarisataka Jan 2017 #33

sorry sari, wrong era webster's jimmy the one Jan 2017 #42

Cherry picking key words.. sarisataka Jan 2017 #44

It doesn't. Swords pistols accoutrements jmg257 Jan 2017 #12

Aw man. Ya' done opened up a can of worms now. Ya' done blasphemed flamin lib Jan 2017 #15

You mean Democratic Party talking points don't you? hack89 Jan 2017 #16

How many guns do you own, again? Or, shall I say, "cling to"? Marengo Jan 2017 #18

Your awkward question will no doubt go unanswered... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2017 #24

Might have saved yourself the effort. It's settled law now, at least for the foreseeable future. Marengo Jan 2017 #19

I just want to thank everyone for sharing their opinion.........n/t HAB911 Jan 2017 #20

You're welcome discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2017 #21

See post #19. It's a matter of *FACT* -- *not* opinion. NT pablo_marmol Jan 2017 #22

I just want to thank everyone for sharing their opinion.........n/t HAB911 Jan 2017 #23

I think there's an echo in here... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2017 #25

No, the bill of rights "gives" nothing. X_Digger Jan 2017 #26

original wording was for the militia interpretation jimmy the one Jan 2017 #27

I'm really surprised no one has claimed HAB911 Jan 2017 #28

I think Hamilton was 1 of the 1st..the militia is much more of a defensive notion against tyranny jmg257 Jan 2017 #35

LOL, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, HAB911 Jan 2017 #36

You'll have to find someone who said it did. This is Hamilton's quote. jmg257 Jan 2017 #37

See: yagotme Jan 2017 #39

LOL!...........n/t HAB911 Jan 2017 #41

british scholars weighed in, after heller jimmy the one Jan 2017 #31

story & oliver support the militia view jimmy the one Jan 2017 #32

"probably" sarisataka Jan 2017 #34

They don't count. yagotme Jan 2017 #40

another sorry attempt re founding father quotes on 2ndA jimmy the one Jan 2017 #43

In all of your extended quotes sarisataka Jan 2017 #45

In your quote below, yagotme Jan 2017 #46