Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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65. Gun control advocacy attracts bullshit artists, like all prohibitionism. DU is not exempt

Sun Oct 2, 2016, 02:09 PM

Oct 2016

They come in several varieties. All are (according to them) the smartest, most concerned/caring
person in the room and purport to "know" what others do and do not "need"

Some are of more than one type:

*The Royalist Gun Owner- "*My* firearms are just fine- it's *those people* (and/or
their guns) that are the problem!"

*The Veteran- "I was (Army/Navy/Air Force/Marines) and (carried/served on) (Weapon
System X). Nobody needs an assault rifle/weapon!"

*The Fudd- Inevitably mentions that they do not own any firearm with post-19th Century
technology and declares that no one needs a gun designed after 1900. If pressed, may grudgingly
accept M-1 Garands.

*The Expert- Knows far more about guns than you ignorant sociopathic racist peasants do,
and is not a bit shy about letting you know that.

If confronted by evidence that they in fact do *not* know what they are talking about
(or are simply flat-out wrong) they press on as if they never saw it, a la Donald Trump.

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which is the deadliest round? [View all] beergood Sep 2016 OP

In terms of number of fatalities, I've read its the humble .22 LR DonP Sep 2016 #1

I was told a while back... freebrew Sep 2016 #2

should all semi-autos beergood Sep 2016 #4

nope freebrew Sep 2016 #17

than why is the ar 15 beergood Sep 2016 #3

Because it looks scary and people think its an automatic weapon that the military uses. n/t Waldorf Sep 2016 #18

.22 has been around the longest too DonP Sep 2016 #5

thats for the first beergood Sep 2016 #6

I think it was for a Smith & Wesson pocket pistol DonP Sep 2016 #7

agreed beergood Sep 2016 #9

My great, great grandfather bought his men Henry's and Sharps DonP Sep 2016 #10

screw you beergood Sep 2016 #11

I wish I'd inherited just one of those Henry's or Sharps DonP Sep 2016 #12

Quite a tale, DonP. ^^^ Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #13

Thanks for sharing interesting family history DonP! NT pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #22

will someone beergood Sep 2016 #8

Consider it done GreydeeThos Sep 2016 #20

They do not like any discussion in that group Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #21

not a suprise beergood Sep 2016 #31

The one that hits you. nt flamin lib Sep 2016 #14

Some data on which bullets hit the most people was just released today... benEzra Sep 2016 #24

Great. Since hand guns kill 5 times more than rifles do flamin lib Sep 2016 #25

The prohibitionists have certainly tried. benEzra Sep 2016 #26

I just turned your own logic on it's head. flamin lib Sep 2016 #27

have you evevr beergood Sep 2016 #30

Ah yes, the slippery slope. Straw Man Sep 2016 #32

As for ignition systems, the firelock was a significant improvement over the matchlock, Marengo Sep 2016 #33

Thank you. We agree on something. That's a start. benEzra Sep 2016 #35

You are beginning to sound batshit crazy. flamin lib Sep 2016 #36

flamin lib advocates voting away citizen's right to keep and bear arms GreydeeThos Sep 2016 #37

I thought the other guy was a bit off. Now I get you. flamin lib Sep 2016 #38

The Second Amendment to the Constitution does not grant a right GreydeeThos Sep 2016 #39

In that case please stop citing the second amendment and the bill of rights. flamin lib Sep 2016 #41

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a natural right GreydeeThos Sep 2016 #48

Okay. Natural law (or rights) stems from a philosophical tradition and is based on nothing flamin lib Sep 2016 #49

flamin lib makes up their own definition of "natural right" GreydeeThos Sep 2016 #50

Should one decide unilaterally that it's a good idea to ban most or all semi-auto arms... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #51

You are not worth my time. flamin lib Sep 2016 #52

Twenty one minutes to get banned and four post to go on ignore GreydeeThos Sep 2016 #53

"Okay. Natural law (or rights) stems from a philosophical tradition and is based on nothing" beergood Oct 2016 #56

Yep. Just like slavery and the way we have treated (and still do) Native Americans. flamin lib Oct 2016 #58

"I know beer is good but you should clear your head and see the world as it is, not how you want it" beergood Oct 2016 #60

*sigh* Everything you cite here is just more philosophy. flamin lib Oct 2016 #61

Don't you know that good and evil is all in your mind? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #62

am i in the ignore list? beergood Oct 2016 #59

"Well recognized gungeon tactic: can't have a conversation with just one gunner" Nah, not true. DonP Sep 2016 #40

Most Western nations DON'T ban detachable-magazine semiautos... benEzra Sep 2016 #42

Live by your own? flamin lib Sep 2016 #43

That you consider rifle ownership to be comparable to human trafficking and child porn... benEzra Sep 2016 #44

Excuse me but I seem to have missed something. flamin lib Sep 2016 #45

Yes, you have. Straw Man Sep 2016 #47

You have been advocating banning people's rifles all up and down this thread, benEzra Sep 2016 #55

Ya' left out the semi auto pistols. flamin lib Oct 2016 #57

I'm sure you would. And undoubtedly revolvers, and "riot guns", and "sniper rifles"... benEzra Oct 2016 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #64

Gun control advocacy attracts bullshit artists, like all prohibitionism. DU is not exempt friendly_iconoclast Oct 2016 #65

agreed beergood Oct 2016 #66

But they are not trying too Duckhunter935 Sep 2016 #28

the well aimed one that hits the target melm00se Sep 2016 #15

I'd add.. Littlepawkitty Oct 2016 #67

You're short on criteria discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #16

^^^ Exactly this. ManiacJoe Sep 2016 #19

^^ Yup. NT pablo_marmol Sep 2016 #23

good questions beergood Sep 2016 #29

I have a 300 Winchester Magnum The Green Manalishi Sep 2016 #34

I think a lot of it depends on placement and skill gejohnston Sep 2016 #46

The one that deathrind Sep 2016 #54